CV and mad panic behaviour

[Mav]

This will be looked back on as a shameful time in Australia's history treating the unvaxxed as deplorables.

Not sure what to make of your reference to deplorables. If you're referring to Hillary's comment, she was spot on. It may have been politically unwise to say what she said but Trump's embrace of white supremacy has proved her point many times over.

[madbluboy]

3 positives at work have had a booster. The vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it.

[LP]

Its tricky.  The word seems to be coming out that of the people hospitalised, most are hospitalised with not by covid.

This poses a logistical issue for a few reasons, but largely its risk to other patients with similar co morbidites and liability.

Canonical issues aside, infections from COVID are a very real issue and yet much of the mainstream gets bogged down in the debate of a category.

Nobody can deny the cost of a jab versus the cost of hospitalisation, yet some in the mainstream still argue against vaccinations even though the vast majority of COVID hospitalisations are people who are otherwise unvaccinated without a valid reason for being so!

[LP]

3 positives at work have had a booster. The vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or spreading it.

Vaccine reduces your chance of getting it and spreading it, and it looks like it may also alleviate symptoms in long COVID sufferers.

[Mav]

So you're saying on an anecdotal basis that the booster has a 0% efficacy? Maybe there needs to more data before you can go there.

[Mav]

I'm certainly not opposed to the idea of changing policies to address the different problems posed by Omicron. But the notion that we should just ditch everything and let it rip totally because current strategies don't act as an impenetrable barrier to Omicron seems to be a bit extreme. If we don't use vaccines, what should we do? Do we instead start to shut down pubs and restaurants or does that impinge on the ability of people to move around freely and make their own decisions? Do we mandate masks and if so do we treat anti-maskers as deplorables? What's the alternative being proposed? It's easy to whinge about what exists but harder to come up with solutions which will not be lambasted by some as an affront to their freedoms.

[madbluboy]

We have let it rip.

[Mav]

So the logic is to let it rip completely? Either we shut down completely or let it rip completely? Can't there be an intermediate setting?

[capcom]

This is my experience of living in Australia.

I am white and have white privilege to minority groups, true dark skinned people, the LBGTQI community and females (i am male).

I am not truly one of the club like some of the others.

I get it Thry, but that's a personal perception is it not, rather than a mainstream view?

[LP]

Not sure what to make of Djoker's latest confessions, his little faux pas might not make much difference to him or other big names, they can forego the $.

Many of his tennis peers cannot afford to lose the money that comes from being declared positive and losing the opportunity to play or travel to tournaments.

I suspect that declaration is going to lose Djoker some good will and trust amongst his peers.

It wouldn't be surprising to find the WTA introduces compulsory testing, they had basically defended not doing so by claiming the players are making the sacrifices and doing the right thing! Not all it seems! :o