Darcy Vescio has an announcement

[kruddler]

I'd say it's more arbitrary than correct, it's the label you have when you're not having a label!

Scoundrels will refer to "they" as "it", and be labelled a hater while being grammatically correct!

Will there be a future in which a female athlete claims prejudicial treatment within the AFLW for not being part of a minority, it seems an absurd suggestion, is it? Imagine that, being treated unfairly by gender bigots for identifying as female!

That would be an interesting question to pose Darcy or others, "Do they believe there is a still a place for females in AFLW?"

In this case arbitrary IS correct.

The first thing i thought about was Darcy has been very pro-female/anti-male with the comments that went viral early on - "Smash the patriarchy" Does Darcy owe one side an apology now because they are somewhat 'fence sitting' now coming out as trans?

Darcy has always been very opinionated and boundary pushing....sometimes a little too much for my liking, it just seems to come back and bite them now.

[LP]

I don't have a problem with Darcy telling her story, I'm dead against people who continually message and lecture me publicly about not wanting to be labelled / categorised coming out and demanding I refer to them by a label.

A label is something generally earned and given to a person or object by a 3rd party, not something you demand for yourself unless you are full of yourself.

You can wear a name tag all you like, but that doesn't require others to refer to you by it.

[kruddler]

I don't have a problem with Darcy telling her story, I'm dead against people who continually message and lecture me publicly about not wanting to be labelled / categorised coming out and demanding I refer to them by a label.

A label is something generally earned and given to a person or object by a 3rd party, not something you demand for yourself unless you are full of yourself.

You can wear a name tag all you like, but that doesn't require others to refer to you by it.

I think that is a very wide brush you are painting wish.

Darcy hasn't "continually" done anything.
Darcy hasn't lectured anyone.
Darcy hasn't demanded anything.

Darcy made one post letting everyone know something somewhat private about themselves and letting people know the best way to go about addressing them to avoid embarrassment.

I think thats fair.


** As a side note, i have caught myself on no less than 10 occasions having to edit out a 'her/she' from my posts, despite proof reading (which i don't normally do). I guarantee i will miss 1 soon enough. If i was chatting face to face, i'd have no hope of addressing them correctly.  :-[

[LP]

** As a side note, i have caught myself on no less than 10 occasions having to edit out a 'her/she' from my posts, despite proof reading (which i don't normally do). I guarantee i will miss 1 soon enough. If i was chatting face to face, i'd have no hope of addressing them correctly.  :-[

Why do you worry about it, you've done and are doing nothing wrong!

This non-binary stuff, it's like a punter too gutless to place a bet on the nose!

[ElwoodBlues1]

I'm old school and binary numbers converting them to decimals etc is what I understand, non binary humans I dont get, Darcy is a pleasant young lady and thats how I view her.
I think you lose something as a unique individual when you become a non gender abstract object and I wonder what has led to this decision to describe herself in such a neutral manner.

[Lods]

How silly is this.

The Wikipedia entry for Darcy has now been edited so that it reads 'they' and 'their' instead of 'she' and 'her'.
I was reading through it without really thinking too much about it but when I got to the second 'they' I thought ..."Does Darcy have a sister who plays as well? ;D .. then it clicked that the edit gremlin had already visited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darcy_Vescio

[kruddler]

Why do you worry about it, you've done and are doing nothing wrong!

This non-binary stuff, it's like a punter too gutless to place a bet on the nose!

Practicing i guess.

I had the same issues with the Ellen/Elliot page thing.
Its only a matter of time until someone i know does something similar, so i'm being a good boy scout and being prepared.

[kruddler]

I'm old school and binary numbers converting them to decimals etc is what I understand, non binary humans I dont get, Darcy is a pleasant young lady and thats I how I view her.
I think you lose something as a unique individual when you become a non gender abstract object and I wonder what has led to this decision to describe herself in such a neutral manner.

Continuing down the numbers theme for a minute, and i hope you can follow me, but to me its less about binary, and more about real vs imaginary numbers.

Real numbers are the numbers we all know and love and use everyday.
Imaginary numbers don't exist, but we made them up to help us work things out and describe things in a simpler way.

Perhaps being 'non-binary' falls instead on the imaginary number scale. That is, it serves a specific purpose but is largely irrelevant to everyday use.

[LP]

I think you lose something as a unique individual when you become a non gender abstract object and I wonder what has led to this decision to describe herself in such a neutral manner.

This is peer pressure, it's not something that comes from the majority, it's driven by an aggressive minority cliqué.

Before the politically correct nerds jump on what I've written, I don't have to wait until I experience this from a family member first-hand, it's already happened in our clan, and I can tell you the pressure from the minority is both extreme and insidious! It's why I openly and without hesitation called out the bullcrap than was the Hanna Mouncey scenario! Here is a non-binary that in a fit of rage could literally physically tear the head of 99.9995% of female opponents!

This situation is so far from being neutral and respectful it's an outright joke, and to think the majority is somehow accused of a wrong doing! It's just painted that way by an insidious minority intelligencia who play for keeps and everyone, everyone even sometimes their own children, are collateral damage in the process. I can't describe the damage this does to a family group when a young child grows up indoctrinated in this rubbish, by the time the adults get old, regretful and wake up to themselves it's all too late to unwind the damage!

The AFL pander to this by the way, because the marketing people will tell you that Dinks are where the discretionary dollars live, the dollars are not with the young mum and growing family!

[deepbluesee]

You can wear a name tag all you like, but that doesn't require others to refer to you by it.

Guess that is true but if I met someone with a name tag they had chosen I would show courtesy/decency to refer to them by that name, not something that suited me as I am too lazy, confused or set in my ways to use the name/label they asked for/prefer.

I'd call it common human decency to call you John, or Dr John or whatever you prefer.

Darcy has, I think, has informed us very politely and without much fuss of their situation and I'll do my best to follow what they have asked. And yes, I'm bound to get it wrong at times.