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I have just read in the Saturday online Age that an infected person with the "wildly infectious" strain attended a birthday party last Saturday at Elwood Bathers which was attended by Dan Andrews. Apparently urgent measures are being taken to contact all attendees.
We regularly go to Elwood Bathers and find their security is excellent. No one is allowed entry unless proof is shown of being double vaccinated.
If this person has Omicron then it makes current checking of cafes and restaurants ineffective and creates a whole new problem.
Whatever the strain it looks like we have opened up too quickly and with the new easing of restrictions the future appears quite murky.
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(12-16-2021, 03:07 PM)Macca37 link Wrote:I have just read in the Saturday online Age that an infected person with the "wildly infectious" strain attended a birthday party last Saturday at Elwood Bathers which was attended by Dan Andrews. Apparently urgent measures are being taken to contact all attendees.
We regularly go to Elwood Bathers and find their security is excellent. No one is allowed entry unless proof is shown of being double vaccinated.
If this person has Omicron then it makes current checking of cafes and restaurants ineffective and creates a whole new problem.
Whatever the strain it looks like we have opened up too quickly and with the new easing of restrictions the future appears quite murky. Went to a birthday party at an Indian Restaurant last weekend. About 100 people in attendance and no one at the door, anyone could walk in unchecked and join proceedings.
Very tight inside for space too, perfect for an evening of Covid although the food probably would have overpowered any virus... Not a fan.
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12-16-2021, 11:05 PM
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This situation is evolving quite rapidly, I'm not sure it's wise to make too many long distance travel plans between now and the early New Year. Just have some contingencies set aside for the if, buts and maybes.
Europe had a little golden period over it's summer because the spread of Delta and the other strains slowed over the warmer months, but that does not appear to be the case for Omicron in our summer, and now I've heard rumours of yet another potential variant. It may also be the case that Omicron is turning out to be a lot nastier for higher latitudes, partially Africa might have found it to be more benign because of the warmer climate and underlying genetics.
Now in Europe even countries that have been more reluctant to act in the past are pulling the pin early on significant restrictions, for me this is a bit of a tell. Part of the problem they have got at the moment is that the Omicron variant is spreading faster than the scientists can work out what it does, what it's risks are and how to treat it.
If I had to guess, the game now seems to be changing in some regions to totally stop infections to stop variants on the basis that the continual emergence of variants makes the situation unmanageable. So if we thought previous lockdowns were harsh, there is a chance we could be in for a significant shock over the next few months!
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So much for the notion the Pandemic Management Act was no longer necessary as the pandemic was over or the claim that governments were just using Omicron as an excuse to seize power. Maybe the concern over Omicron was justified. Who would have thunk it?
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Getting Moderna booster shot next week.
Reality always wins in the end.
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12-17-2021, 02:16 AM
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(12-16-2021, 11:38 PM)Mav date Wrote:So much for the notion the Pandemic Management Act was no longer necessary as the pandemic was over or the claim that governments were just using Omicron as an excuse to seize power. Maybe the concern over Omicron was justified. Who would have thunk it? I wonder if [member=105]Thryleon[/member] has noticed anything at work, they seem to be taking Omicron very seriously in the health sector, I suspect the minute there was a hint of a chance it was not particularly good for kids to get Omicron the game changed, before then COVID was just an old persons disease!
If it is bad for kids, the protestors are going to have a whole new level of stuff to complain about!
My wife predicted this last year, she told me if kids were getting sick nobody would tolerate all the protest and anti-vax shit that was going on! I'd wouldn't dare or be stupid enough to protest if it turns out kids are vulnerable, what will Craig Kelly do?
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How can you predict what an idiot would do? The only certainty is that it'll be something stupid.
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12-17-2021, 02:31 AM
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(12-17-2021, 02:29 AM)Mav date Wrote:How can you predict what an idiot would do? The only certainty is that it'll be something stupid. He'll do what serves his own interests best, every time!
Hard right types like Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt have clammed up, their prime constituency is grandparents so they aren't going to come out and make "bad luck for the grandkids" type statements!
I can't believe Scomo made the statement he made today, in effect saying no to any future restrictions and prioritising protecting livelihoods over reducing infections, if those infections turn out to be kids that quote will be turned by the media into "Scomo said save jobs not kids!"
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(12-17-2021, 02:16 AM)LP link Wrote:I wonder if [member=105]Thryleon[/member] has noticed anything at work, they seem to be taking Omicron very seriously in the health sector, I suspect the minute there was a hint of a chance it was not particularly good for kids to get Omicron the game changed, before then COVID was just an old persons disease!
If it is bad for kids, the protestors are going to have a whole new level of stuff to complain about!
My wife predicted this last year, she told me if kids were getting sick nobody would tolerate all the protest and anti-vax crap that was going on! I'd wouldn't dare or be stupid enough to protest if it turns out kids are vulnerable, what will Craig Kelly do?
Nothing at this stage. Business as usual. The hospitals aren't flip flopping with policy. They flip wards from covid to non covid and back to covid and thats about it. Visitors not allowed. Etc. Ive spent the last week in nsw so most of what I know is 7 days plus old.
I do know that they are implementing teams to watch the positives and contact them in order to understand whether or not hospitalisation is likely or not. Lots of hospital in the home going on too. Contact tracers picked up and went home and haven't returned to site yet.
It is what it is.
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So, Ch7 News claims that hospitalisations for Covid are surging. But didn't the armchair epidemiologists assure us that wouldn't happen? Seems they're about as reliable as armchair recruiters, selectors and coaches ...
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