CV and mad panic behaviour

[DJC]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presiden...d=81701113

As BTO sang, "you ain't seen nothing yet"

Why is this in the COVID thread?  There is specific thread for Biden.  In fact, you started it 

Moving posts is a pain in the butt so you may wish to post this again in the Biden thread.  I will delete your post in this thread later today.

[LP]

Can someone explain logically why Liam Jones retired again?

Some vaccine mandates remain, and I believe despite what happens in retail settings you'll still need vaccine certificates to fly.

The problem for Liam and other dissenters, is that potential liability means some commercial entities with enough financial and legal clout to defend their position, are going to continue to require vaccination certificates for people to access those services. I doubt States or Feds will make that practice illegal, at the moment the Feds guarantee the right decline service, but you never know in minority politics.

Insurers are already putting caveats on policies, that mean if you do not enforce vaccine requirements you won't be covered by insurance against litigation. Businesses are as a result in a no win situation, primarily caused by a piss-weak Federal government.

[LP]

NSW numbers have exploded and that was before allowing the unvaxxed back into society. Looks like Omricon is a bad one.

Where is the breakdown of Delta vs Omicron for NSW?

[Lods]

Where is the breakdown of Delta vs Omicron for NSW?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/health/medical...hp&pc=U531

"The new data from the Kirby Institute comes as Covid-19 case numbers in New South Wales jumped again on Wednesday to 1,360, 25 of them are the Omicron variant."

Delta is still number one

[Thryleon]

Some vaccine mandates remain, and I believe despite what happens in retail settings you'll still need vaccine certificates to fly.

The problem for Liam and other dissenters, is that potential liability means some commercial entities with enough financial and legal clout to defend their position, are going to continue to require vaccination certificates for people to access those services. I doubt States or Feds will make that practice illegal, at the moment the Feds guarantee the right decline service, but you never know in minority politics.

Insurers are already putting caveats on policies, that mean if you do not enforce vaccine requirements you won't be covered by insurance against litigation. Businesses are as a result in a no win situation, primarily caused by a piss-weak Federal government.

Mate, I appreciate the sentiment but professional footballers aren't really at any real covid risk.  We've had very few cases result in any real impact to sports globally aside from causing issues to fielding a team once positive and as we've seen in the EPL recently it's mattered little whether vaccinated or not.

[LP]

Mate, I appreciate the sentiment but professional footballers aren't really at any real covid risk.  We've had very few cases result in any real impact to sports globally aside from causing issues to fielding a team once positive and as we've seen in the EPL recently it's mattered little whether vaccinated or not.

Once again, the problem is not unidirectional, you need to think this through from many perspectives, the litigation might not be from the players, does the AFL run it's own private jet reserved for it's own use, are flights shared by other people, what about the flight crew, cleaners, baggage handlers, security and ground staff?

We wouldn't be laughing now if Cook had kicked the bucket, and he is every bit as critical to our fate as some 20 year old kicking the pill around the park!

I'm sure the lawyers and health insurers will be fully understanding, and forgive the airlines for having allowed the unvaccinated sporting superstar to travel, cough and sneeze all over a now ventilated client. I'm sure the patients lawyers won't act in an opportunistic manner, it's not like the lawyers have behaved poorly before, it would be a first if they sued wouldn't it as they always act in societies best interest, or perhaps it's that they act in interest$ best interest!

Anyway, how would they establish a link, it's not like they could litigate on a idea! :

If you can find a way to have the general public accept that level of discrimination and waiver their private right to litigate then it's all good!

PS; I would like to sell you a pixie garden that is full of golden egg crapping geese, it's a bargain! Wait on too late, I've sold it to Perrottet, in the meantime you all just continue to take on responsibility for yourself and do the right thing! ;D

[LP]

I can't help but think, that Perrottet's team have come out and claimed 25,000 COVID cases a day by the end of Jan, so that if it doesn't get to that figure they can claim "A job well done!"

One of the reasons I'm sceptical is that there are regions of much higher density, with larger populations and less health services than Sydney or Melbourne, that aren't getting to much more than 50,000 a day!

To think dispersed NSW could get to that figure seems a stretch, I wonder what Perrottet's Federal colleagues think of his proclamation, surely if NSW do get to 25,000 a day Scomo is a dead man walking!

[Thryleon]

Once again, the problem is not unidirectional, you need to think this through from many perspectives, the litigation might not be from the players, does the AFL run it's own private jet reserved for it's own use, are flights shared by other people, what about the flight crew, cleaners, baggage handlers, security and ground staff?

We wouldn't be laughing now if Cook had kicked the bucket, and he is every bit as critical to our fate as some 20 year old kicking the pill around the park!

I'm sure the lawyers and health insurers will be fully understanding, and forgive the airlines for having allowed the unvaccinated sporting superstar to travel, cough and sneeze all over a now ventilated client. I'm sure the patients lawyers won't act in an opportunistic manner, it's not like the lawyers have behaved poorly before, it would be a first if they sued wouldn't it as they always act in societies best interest, or perhaps it's that they act in interest$ best interest!

Anyway, how would they establish a link, it's not like they could litigate on a idea! :

If you can find a way to have the general public accept that level of discrimination and waiver their private right to litigate then it's all good!

PS; I would like to sell you a pixie garden that is full of golden egg crapping geese, it's a bargain! Wait on too late, I've sold it to Perrottet, in the meantime you all just continue to take on responsibility for yourself and do the right thing! ;D

I think you're missing the point that the unvaccinated are about to be given the green light to play on.

[kruddler]

I think you're missing the point that the unvaccinated are about to be given the green light to play on.

That may be so, but they might be playing russian roulette.

Darwins theory of evolution will get to work now.

[Thryleon]

That may be so, but they might be playing russian roulette.

Darwins theory of evolution will get to work now.

Im not arguing against that or disputing it.  I think the only reason to dump Liam comes back to a team ethos dynamic.

I hear Jurgen klopp got asked a similar question at a press conference.  He mentioned all his players have been vaccinated.  Thats important from a one in all in scenario.  He was asked whether or not he would only consider vaccinated players when they started signing players again, and he answered it very much awkwardly admitting that they hadn't considered that at this stage, but admitted they might do. 

Now if thats the case, that's fine, but its important to consider that this may not be a factor anymore and im saying this that people should get vaccinated. 

Liam isn't alone with losing his job and career over it.  Its been a massive price to pay and the short term reversal of the rules has meant that these people are going to be even more butter and twisted about it.

Also if our lack of key defenders is a problem next year no one is going to care particularly if covid causes grief to the season again next year with the unvaxxed out.