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(11-05-2021, 12:10 AM)LP link Wrote:All the while the nutters continue to infect innocent bystanders, in particular those innocent bystanders who for whatever reason might not be able to be vaccinated.
Okay, can we stop with this because IT IS NOT TRUE. This is FALSE.
If you have been vaccinated, you can STILL carry the virus, infect others and also contract Covid. This continual peddling of this type of information which NOBODY HERE has pulled up, just contributes to the various conspiracy theories going around.
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(11-05-2021, 03:31 AM)LP link Wrote:Interesting to read that Pfizer has been linked to over 250 myocarditis cases in Australia, that count not including pericarditis, I believe that myocarditis count alone is more than the total Astrazeneca TTS, yet Pfizer myocarditis side-effects still hardly get a mention!
Pfizer's myocarditis side-effect happens in any patient, almost randomly distributed across age groups, Astrazeneca TTS in now know to be specific to a subset of the population that have a precursor condition known as APS. They can test in advance and tell patients if they have a high chance of getting Astrazeneca related TTS.
I just do not understand why the media has this reporting bias, I have to assume there are vested interests or that it's a face saving exercise because a change exposes the earlier bias and errors present in the reporting. How many people has Pfizer/Moderna actually killed in Aus?..we have had two family members with issues, both males in their early 30's, one had myocarditis from Pfizer and was taken to hospital for a 2 day stay and the other had Moderna which brought him out in lumps on his collarbone which were Lipoma's caused by a reaction to the vaccine, he also had a bad rash around the area. Sputnik has been a disaster in Russia, no one wants it, we have friends there who live down south on the Black sea coast and take up is about 30%, death rate is a lot higher than reported too, everyone wants to get across to Turkey to get Pfizer given the mistrust of the local product.
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(11-05-2021, 06:42 AM)spf link Wrote:Okay, can we stop with this because IT IS NOT TRUE. This is FALSE.
If you have been vaccinated, you can STILL carry the virus, infect others and also contract Covid. This continual peddling of this type of information which NOBODY HERE has pulled up, just contributes to the various conspiracy theories going around.
Yes, but the chances are minute compared to non-vaccinated folk. Furthermore, the symptoms experienced by vaccinated folk are generally much milder.
Have you been taking note of the percentages of infected folk who are unvaccinated?
The bottom line is get vaccinated or prepare to get very sick ?
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11-05-2021, 02:30 PM
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(11-05-2021, 09:02 AM)DJC link Wrote:Yes, but the chances are minute compared to non-vaccinated folk. Furthermore, the symptoms experienced by vaccinated folk are generally much milder.
Have you been taking note of the percentages of infected folk who are unvaccinated?
The bottom line is get vaccinated or prepare to get very sick ?
Actually the bottom line is this: Stop spreading misinformation which was what my post was in reply to.
Quote from: LP on November 05, 2021, 11:10:59 AM
All the while the nutters continue to infect innocent bystanders, in particular those innocent bystanders who for whatever reason might not be able to be vaccinated. - AND COULD BE INFECTED BY VACCINATED PEOPLE AS WELL.
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11-05-2021, 03:47 PM
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(11-05-2021, 06:42 AM)spf date Wrote:Okay, can we stop with this because IT IS NOT TRUE. This is FALSE.
If you have been vaccinated, you can STILL carry the virus, infect others and also contract Covid. This continual peddling of this type of information which NOBODY HERE has pulled up, just contributes to the various conspiracy theories going around. The nutters are space invading unmasked anti-vaxing gob5h!tes with zero respect for those around them.
Plenty of us have talked through the relative risks of infection and transmission, myself included!
Freedom comes at a price, always has always will, it's the anti-vaxers that want the free lunch in this case, they aren't the defenders of freedom, they limit the rest of us for their own selfish beliefs! The 2c social media logic they peddle about defending freedom is completely backwards!
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11-05-2021, 03:55 PM
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(11-05-2021, 07:36 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:How many people has Pfizer/Moderna actually killed in Aus?..we have had two family members with issues, both males in their early 30's, one had myocarditis from Pfizer and was taken to hospital for a 2 day stay and the other had Moderna which brought him out in lumps on his collarbone which were Lipoma's caused by a reaction to the vaccine, he also had a bad rash around the area. Sputnik has been a disaster in Russia, no one wants it, we have friends there who live down south on the Black sea coast and take up is about 30%, death rate is a lot higher than reported too, everyone wants to get across to Turkey to get Pfizer given the mistrust of the local product. The distrust in Sputnik and Sinovax is that they don't deliver resistance, it's not driven by the idea that Pfizer is safer but that it does the job!
If Pfizer is killing less as a percentage it was primarily due to knowledge about how to treat the side-effects, they still don't have the why. AZ was statistically already as safe as Pfizer, and now they have the why they can treat the side-effects it should become even safer!
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How many people has pfizer killed in Australia?
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(11-05-2021, 03:55 PM)LP link Wrote:The distrust in Sputnik and Sinovax is that they don't deliver resistance, it's not driven by the idea that Pfizer is safer but that it does the job!
If Pfizer is killing less as a percentage it was primarily due to knowledge about how to treat the side-effects, they still don't have the why. AZ was statistically already as safe as Pfizer, and now they have the why they can treat the side-effects it should become even safer! The distrust in Sputnik is that the locals don't trust the Government and what's in the vaccine. I have read it isn't as effective but that's not the main reason take up is poor.
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11-05-2021, 10:58 PM
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(11-05-2021, 03:47 PM)LP link Wrote:The nutters are space invading unmasked anti-vaxing gob5h!tes with zero respect for those around them.
Plenty of us have talked through the relative risks of infection and transmission, myself included!
Freedom comes at a price, always has always will, it's the anti-vaxers that want the free lunch in this case, they aren't the defenders of freedom, they limit the rest of us for their own selfish beliefs! The 2c social media logic they peddle about defending freedom is completely backwards!
LP, the point was Stop spreading misinformation, and this is directed to EVERYONE - this has gone on too long. It should have been pulled up long ago and has not been. Anti-mask wearing, anti-vaxxers aside, the information being perpetuated is simply false and needs to be called out as such. Anyone CAN be a carrier of Covid 'vaccinated' or not.
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(11-05-2021, 10:58 PM)spf link Wrote:LP, the point was Stop spreading misinformation, and this is directed to EVERYONE - this has gone on too long. It should have been pulled up long ago and has not been. Anti-mask wearing, anti-vaxxers aside, the information being perpetuated is simply false and needs to be called out as such. Anyone CAN be a carrier of Covid 'vaccinated' or not.
Completely agree [member=78]spf[/member]
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