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Congratulation Sam Walsh - B+F winner 2021
#11
(10-14-2021, 08:28 PM)Lods link Wrote:It's a coach's award and is hugely influenced  by the role they're asked to play, and also by the number of games they play...but you probably wouldn't get a lot of argument about the top 3...only perhaps the margins.

While money (bonuses) is involved in placings it is never going to be legit.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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(10-14-2021, 08:32 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:While money (bonuses) is involved in placings it is never going to be legit.
It's all a scam, eh?

I didn't realise Plowman was that clever, manipulating the club for profit, seems odd given a lot of his haters spend all day telling us how dumb he is! :o
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#13
What's more believable a club manipulating it's best and fairest to suit  their salary cap or channel 7 all secretly barracking for the bombers or the the AFL having secret anti Carlton meetings?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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#14
I'm a believer in "None of the above" Wink
Next thing they'll be telling us is that "Captain Kirk never went to Space" ;D

If every one of our best 22(3) played every game you might get a slightly different result down the order,
Plowman might have dropped a bit, but clearly the coaching group were generally happy with how he performed.
Of course most of them have now gone and with different expectations might come different criteria for a top 10 finish.

But...
Walsh, Weitering and McKay were our best in order.
No problems with the result.
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#15
Well done Walshi., and well done Weitering too.

Also well done to Plowman. Once again in the top few as he has been in the past few years.
I spent most of my money on Women and grog.
The rest I just wasted.
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#16
Tend to agree with MBB that it can a bit of a popularity award with the coaches and that there is room for manipulation depending on contract triggers etc.
The top three was clearly right which was the important result to look at.
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(10-14-2021, 10:50 PM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Tend to agree with MBB that it can a bit of a popularity award with the coaches and that there is room for manipulation depending on contract triggers etc.
The top three was clearly right which was the important result to look at.
So somehow magically and arbitrarily the coaches collude to place legitimate votes for the winners who happen to be fan favourites, but submit corrupt votes for the rest who just happen to be fan whipping boys!

IC, we are through the looking glass here people!  8) :-X

In Plowman's case, they / he has been doing this his whole career, I mean he's been manipulating relationships to deliver favourable results since he began, and yet he is stupid apparently. Smarter than some it seems! He must be a master fraudster, and we've let him in the door! :o
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(10-14-2021, 10:50 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Tend to agree with MBB that it can a bit of a popularity award with the coaches and that there is room for manipulation depending on contract triggers etc.
The top three was clearly right which was the important result to look at.
Agree. Call out to Ed Curnow who once again had an outstandingly consistent year. To paraphrase Mark Twain, “The reports of his  death are greatly exaggerated.” Think he can go on for more than the one year extension.
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(10-14-2021, 09:48 PM)madbluboy date Wrote:What's more believable a club manipulating it's best and fairest to suit  their salary cap or channel 7 all secretly barracking for the bombers or the the AFL having secret anti Carlton meetings?
So Jab Snr barracks for Carlton, Eddie Everywhere is just genuine, Caro is a fan girl, Whatley declared his love and Kevin Sheedy is a prophet, so we'd do well to take their advice!

And Carlton manipulated the B&F results so that the guy they are yet to sign but want to sign long term finished 1st, massively increasing his worth! To do what for the salary cap, and the coaches and coaching assistants planned this from Rnd 1, what insight, what planning and foresight!

Yet they didn't see the sack coming! :o

Sort of like the Psychic having to cancel the show due to unforeseen circumstances!
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(10-14-2021, 11:09 PM)rocky link Wrote:Agree. Call out to Ed Curnow who once again had an outstandingly consistent year. To paraphrase Mark Twain, “The reports of his  death are greatly exaggerated.” Think he can go on for more than the one year extension.
Agree on Ed Curnow, solid performer all year and imo probably more consistent than Cripps..
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