2021 Review: What have we learnt about our team?

[laj]

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[laj]

I suspect this will be a recapitulation of grievances / opinions in other threads. I was thinking myself of starting  a 2021 review thread.

1. Sacking Teague is a disgrace.
2. I predicted a  9th-11th finish at the start of the year. We did a little worse mainly due to injuries, covid and the review.
3. The Review is a farce and a waste of time.
4. The Board and executive should be sacked / resign.
5. Teague needs better support, especially in defence and stoppage work.
6. Old Carlton is back with a vengeance.

More to come.

You might get you wish with the Board. Heading to an EGM on October 27.

'The Blues’ battle of the boardroom has been set for October 27 after a rebel Carlton supporter group formally triggered the process for an EGM and spill of the board.'

[northernblue]

You might get you wish with the Board. Heading to an EGM on October 27.

'The Blues’ battle of the boardroom has been set for October 27 after a rebel Carlton supporter group formally triggered the process for an EGM and spill of the board.'

Which would explain the 4 new board members… the old “Look ! We’ve just renewed the board, you need to give us a chance to implement the review” trick.

[JonDorotich]

Sorry but I've got to call bullcrap on that claim, they might laugh at him being suspended for attacking the footy, but nobody with a sane mind calls Plowman soft at the contest.

He’s not soft but he is an ordinary player, who regularly panics and makes poor decisions on the field and has below average skills and pace. He’s got no currency on the trade table whatsoever for very good reason.

I’ve heard all the arguments that his selflessness allows others like Saad and Jones to freewheel, but the harsh reality is that no top 8 team would even entertain the thought of Plowman on their list.

Out of interest what do you think you could get for Plowman at the trade table?

[LoveNavy]

We certainly shouldn't be counting any chickens with our present list.

Yet we do Cookie. We set high expectations and fail. Year after year. That to me is the greatest failing of the club.

[laj]

Yet we do Cookie. We set high expectations and fail. Year after year. That to me is the greatest failing of the club.

That's is a big issue. Straight away Sayers puts the next coach under pressure saying he expects finals.

There are some supporters who are the same hence they are quick to want to sack a coach.

[LoveNavy]

That's is a big issue. Straight away Sayers puts the next coach under pressure saying he expects finals.

There supporters who are the same hence they are quick to want to sack a coach.

And so it goes on and on and on.... and here we sit 20yrs later.
Do other clubs constantly set such expectations and create undue pressure from day 1?
Do other clubs have a more realistic understanding of the capacity of their list?
Is the cohesion between football and non-football departments better?

[kruddler]

Out of interest what do you think you could get for Plowman at the trade table?

Completely depends on who you are trading with.

Did you expect to end up with a 1st round pick from Henderson trade?
Did you expect to end up with a 1st round pick from Tuohy trade?
I'd rate Plowman as more important to our team than both of them were.

[ElwoodBlues1]

He’s not soft but he is an ordinary player, who regularly panics and makes poor decisions on the field and has below average skills and pace. He’s got no currency on the trade table whatsoever for very good reason.

I’ve heard all the arguments that his selflessness allows others like Saad and Jones to freewheel, but the harsh reality is that no top 8 team would even entertain the thought of Plowman on their list.

Out of interest what do you think you could get for Plowman at the trade table?

Plowman would be around a 3rd rounder IMO......not KP and to the casual observer wouldnt look that good seeing the quality
of players he plays on and the goals kicked on him.
As others have suggested he is worth more to us who know the level of responsibility he has each week. He has his issues but we dont have that Vlastuin/Grimes type player/s who you can play on those inbetween types that are hard to match up on.

[capcom]

Agreed Elwood.  At a pinch, a second rounder.  But I'd keep him