CV and mad panic behaviour

[LP]

Omg. Nearly 8000 cases of Covid in under 19 year olds in aust.
Resulting in one death to a young man who sadly had a pre existing live threading Heath issues.

I will leave it there mate as I get too worked up.

How come you're not worked up by the 7999?

Based on UK and USA figures about 30% get some form of long COVID, or nearly 2700 'kids'! Of that 2700 about 10% are going to have detectable heart, lung or nervous system damage, that is about 270 u19s that might suffer life long debilitating effects.

Despite all that damage to the kids, we still don't solve this by disrespecting those elders who have died, to state it is just 3 here or just 4 there is scandalous, if you want to debate that here, good luck!

[Mav]

Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass,
it is about learning to dance in the rain.

[flyboy77]

29,000 hospitalisations for the flu in some 7 months of 2017, but no one called it a “pandemic” (or wet the bed daily).

Today there are 514 in hospital for COVID.

1. https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main...20017F09E/$File/2017-season-summary-22112017.pdf
2. https://health.gov.au/news/health-alerts...statistics

[LP]

29,000 hospitalisations for the flu in some 7 months of 2017, but no one called it a “pandemic” (or wet the bed daily).

Today there are 514 in hospital for COVID.

Yes, we didn't have lockdown for Influenza and look how bad things got, and that is for a disease with an R[sub]0[/sub] that is only a fraction of Sars-CoV-2!

Luckily the lockdown and vaccines are working at slowing Sars-CoV-2, and now it looks like we will get an effective early treatment with several new drugs proving useful, the TGA has already approved Sotrovimab. But vaccines will remain the cheapest and safest option, and Sotrovimab can't be used for patients under 12 or under 40kg.

Sotrovimab is very expensive;
A single course which is 10 x 0.8ml intravenous doses costs about US$2200, the vaccines cost between $8 and $50 per dose.

[flyboy77]

Yes, we didn't have lockdown for Influenza and look how bad things got, and that is for a disease with an R[sub]0[/sub] that is only a fraction of Sars-CoV-2!

Luckily the lockdown and vaccines are working at slowing Sars-CoV-2, and now it looks like we will get an effective early treatment with several new drugs proving useful, the TGA has already approved Sotrovimab. But vaccines will remain the cheapest and safest option, and Sotrovimab can't be used for patients under 12 or under 40kg.

Sotrovimab is very expensive;
A single course which is 10 x 0.8ml intravenous doses costs about US$2200, the vaccines cost between $8 and $50 per dose.

And again, you dismiss Ivermectin (or HCQ for  that matter).

Despite many world experts being adamant.

bird-group.org/health-professionals-resources/

Prof. Thomas Borody - https://covexit.com/australian-gps-can-l...or-borody/

(reckon this guy might know a tad more than you LP)

We wouldn't even have a problem at all.

But viable treatment options = no EUA = no bucks for the vaxx companies.

[flyboy77]

Yes, we didn't have lockdown for Influenza and look how bad things got, and that is for a disease with an R[sub]0[/sub] that is only a fraction of Sars-CoV-2!

Luckily the lockdown and vaccines are working at slowing Sars-CoV-2, and now it looks like we will get an effective early treatment with several new drugs proving useful, the TGA has already approved Sotrovimab. But vaccines will remain the cheapest and safest option, and Sotrovimab can't be used for patients under 12 or under 40kg.

Sotrovimab is very expensive;
A single course which is 10 x 0.8ml intravenous doses costs about US$2200, the vaccines cost between $8 and $50 per dose.

And who makes Sotrovimab?

GSK, who (essentially) own Pfizer!

https://www.sotrovimab.com/

Safety - who knows!

https://www.sotrovimab.com/hcp/clinical-...iant-info/

Got an EUA, but has a safety profile history of a few weeks....hmmm.

[Mav]

Until the Together study is in, STFU about ivermectin. But by all means feel free to swallow a handful of horse de-wormer if you want. After all, isn’t freedom just the right to kill yourself through stupidity?

[Mav]

Anyway, I’m now double-vaxxed, so we can start vaccine passports now  )

[LP]

Many drugs and medicines are useful as part of a complimentary regime, they can be used to target complex illness that results from cross infections (known as comorbidity).

But being useful as a treatment for a comorbidity is a world away from a drug or medicine being effective against a specific virus or bacteria.

Piling together a swath of drugs and medicines in a complimentary regime to treat one single virus is a bit like opening a safe with a nuclear bomb!

[LP]

Israel keeps turning up as a terrific example of the efficacy of the vaccines, despite what the naysayers claim.

In early reports of a study following thousands of fully vaccinated health workers, only 2.6% of fully vaccinated health workers experienced breakthrough Sars-CoV-2 infections, and in each case that was following exposure to severely infected patients. In effect it shows full vaccination is truly demonstrating better than 95% efficacy as claimed by both Pfizer and AZ.

The vaccines aren't perfect, within the breakthrough group a percentage of them still suffer long term COVID-19 effects. But even so that percentage, about 10% of the 2.6%, is greatly reduced relative to the unvaccinated cohort. In effect only 0.27% of vaccinated experienced long term Sars-CoV-2 effects versus about 15% of the unvaccinated cohort!

The official report and final figures should be available within the next month or so.