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I guess we will never know which individual(s) are responsible for our debt free financial position, but whomever they are, I say thanks. Hopefully this will be the first step in ridding ourselves of moneyed, external power brokers for good.
MLG strikes me as being a good Carlton man. I've got no doubt he loves the club, but I'm not sure he has the clout or the personality to deal with interfering busybodies who act with very poor judgment.
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(08-16-2021, 03:14 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:[member=29]laj[/member]
Agree about the review timing. Atrocious people management that effectively torpedoed the club’s season by destroying trust from top down. I hope Sayers has learned something but I doubt it. It was an act of arrogance that portends ill for the future.
One has to wonder whether Sayers knew exactly what he was doing, knew it would lead to bad results, which then provides "evidence" that Teague is not the man for the job.
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(08-16-2021, 03:21 AM)PaulP link Wrote:One has to wonder whether Sayers knew exactly what he was doing, knew it would lead to bad results, which then provides "evidence" that Teague is not the man for the job.
Paul I’m shocked - your cynicism exceeds mine. ??
Reality always wins in the end.
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(08-16-2021, 03:24 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Paul I’m shocked - your cynicism exceeds mine. ??
Lol. It's not usually my go, but CEO's and ex CEO's of big 4 accounting firms are probably a breed apart.
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'Old Carlton' by now, even well before now, would have sacked Teague and a caretaker would be, or would have been, in place. For those, including me, who've questioned our Board, I sense change in governance and procedures is afoot. Thus far, a pleasant change and hopefully indicative of a 'new' and strong direction. Good to see MLG handing over this week. On his watch the dreadful debt has been erased, an important legacy... now to strengthen those foundations and address and restructure the footy dept. Hard to imagine those complicit in the poor governance re the footy dept getting off scot-free. Has the broom of accountability hit the floor ready to begin sweeping?
Well, I guess I remain one of the few who doesn't have an issue with launching an independent review mid-season - for me this was a 'long view' approach. At the risk of appearing somewhat callous, only the non-performers need feel pressured by something like this. Plus I'd prefer, using a medical metaphor, a patient's (CFC) concerning symptomatology be addressed asap, regardless of who might feel pressured or inconvenienced.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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(08-16-2021, 03:21 AM)PaulP link Wrote:One has to wonder whether Sayers knew exactly what he was doing, knew it would lead to bad results, which then provides "evidence" that Teague is not the man for the job. He neglected to consider one small detail in that rather elaborate plan, we aint farken stupid.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(08-16-2021, 03:21 AM)PaulP link Wrote:One has to wonder whether Sayers knew exactly what he was doing, knew it would lead to bad results, which then provides "evidence" that Teague is not the man for the job. [/quote]
If he was prepared to sabotage our season with this review he better have something pretty special up his sleeve and sell it well.
I really believe the timing of this review has screwed up the season and this week's game scares me.
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(08-16-2021, 03:52 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:He neglected to consider one small detail in that rather elaborate plan, we aint farken stupid.
(08-16-2021, 03:53 AM)percy link Wrote:If he was prepared to sabotage our season with this review he better have something pretty special up his sleeve and sell it well.
I really believe the timing of this review has screwed up the season and this week's game scares me.
The review was called after Teague had coached about 40 games. 40 games !! How is that even possible ? With covid and all the rest. I'm not sure if they think Teague is making them look bad because the results don't fit with their unrealistic, feel good messaging in pre season, or what's going on. But that's appalling. His W/L hovers around 40%-45%. It's not that bad, and not the sort of results that warrant a review IMO.
So as I see it, the Board is either incompetent or malevolent or both (as I've said before). It's hard to believe Sayers couldn't see this coming. He wants to show the fans that he's taking action, but it just seems like the same old panicked, knee jerk, rash decision making from the masters in the field.
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(08-16-2021, 03:50 AM)Baggers link Wrote:'Old Carlton' by now, even well before now, would have sacked Teague and a caretaker would be, or would have been, in place. For those, including me, who've questioned our Board, I sense change in governance and procedures is afoot. Thus far, a pleasant change and hopefully indicative of a 'new' and strong direction. Good to see MLG handing over this week. On his watch the dreadful debt has been erased, an important legacy... now to strengthen those foundations and address and restructure the footy dept. Hard to imagine those complicit in the poor governance re the footy dept getting off scot-free. Has the broom of accountability hit the floor ready to begin sweeping?
Well, I guess I remain one of the few who doesn't have an issue with launching an independent review mid-season - for me this was a 'long view' approach. At the risk of appearing somewhat callous, only the non-performers need feel pressured by something like this. Plus I'd prefer, using a medical metaphor, a patient's (CFC) concerning symptomatology be addressed asap, regardless of who might feel pressured or inconvenienced.
I can't say I agree with much in this post.
Being debt free is great but you don't walk into the foyer at Princes Park and look at the spreadsheets on the wall.
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(08-16-2021, 03:52 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:He neglected to consider one small detail in that rather elaborate plan, we aint farken stupid.
Speak for yourself.
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