Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 21: Carlton vs Gold Coast

[PaulP]

Not really Paul. We know that there are other posters on here who can be relied on to remind us of the others.  8)

Lol. I'll pay that. We should thank our lucky stars for those other posters, that's all I can say.

[PaulP]

From Juddy's autobiography

"Judd recounted the culture difference between West Coast and Carlton; and was blown away by the difference. He said at West Coast they expected to win and everyone trained accordingly, they were disciplined and all trained hard with the intent of winning a premiership. Conversely at Carlton (Wooden spooners) the players were simply hoping not to lose by too large a margin. Lesson-You get what you expect and deserve and train accordingly. At Carlton players were playing for a contract next year, not playing to win a premiership! Year upon year of finishing on the bottom has a much more destructive effect on culture than a handful of high draft picks could ever repair!"

Are those actual quotes from his book ? What you've posted there sounds word for word like this fellow :

http://www.injoewetrust.com.au/2015/10/2...biography/

To my reading it's him paraphrasing and not quoting from the book as such - he may well have got the substance right, but I'd be keen to read Judd's actual words.

Judd arrived in 2007, and he is one of an absurd number of individuals who have come in and tried to improve culture. Dozens and dozens of coaches, players, recruiters etc. And here we are. The playing list and coaching stuff have changed many times over since 2007. So singling out individuals as the reason for this bad culture won't work. Individuals have been replaced again and again. 

[laj]

Are those actual quotes from his book ? What you've posted there sounds word for word like this fellow :

http://www.injoewetrust.com.au/2015/10/2...biography/

To my reading it's him paraphrasing and not quoting from the book as such - he may well have got the substance right, but I'd be keen to read Judd's actual words.

Judd arrived in 2007, and he is one of an absurd number of individuals who have come in and tried to improve culture. Dozens and dozens of coaches, players, recruiters etc. And here we are. The playing list and coaching stuff have changed many times over since 2007. So singling out individuals as the reason for this bad culture won't work. Individuals have been replaced again and again.

That is exactly what Judd said a few years ago. There is no argument about him being right. Cultures unfortunately pervade through a club. Personnel changes but not all at once so it gets "passed down", for want of a better word. That's why bad cultures hang around.

[cookie2]

Lol. I'll pay that. We should thank our lucky stars for those other posters, that's all I can say.

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[LygonStreetLimbo]

I think LOB had a crack and at least he can hit a target… most of his kicks are strong, he keeps them low and places them well. Yeah, I didn’t see the whole game and his stats were ordinary…

[kruddler]

I think LOB had a crack and at least he can hit a target… most of his kicks are strong, he keeps them low and places them well. Yeah, I didn’t see the whole game and his stats were ordinary…

I posted in the in-game thread.

LOB had only touched it 6 times up to 3/4 time.
He had 8 touches in the last to end with 14.

[rocky]

Blokes like LOB, Fisher, Dow, Kennedy, Williamson and even SPS need to be played from here on. Last chance hotel (although I think Dow and Kennedy are safe).

[WASurfer]

Rocky I thought Kennedy was one of our better players on Saturday. His form since coming back into the team has been okay and warrants another contract. If Walsh doesn't get up for this weekend against Port then SPS might get his last hurrah.

[BlackRooster]

No, we are very good when we WANT to be. Last week we were contrite and put in. when we do, every side has trouble with us. Watch us turn up next week now it's all over. We only had to produce and effort against North and GC and we'd play finals. That's what is the most frustrating. Was such a simple thing to do.

Its hard to work out each week whether it is Carlton playing well or the opposition not playing well. Maybe a bit harsh thinking like this but seeing what this team has been doing over the last few years i am becoming cynical. Now that we have lost Harry, next week will be a bath
 

[Gointocarlton]

Its hard to work out each week whether it is Carlton playing well or the opposition not playing well. Maybe a bit harsh thinking like this but seeing what this team has been doing over the last few years i am becoming cynical. Now that we have lost Harry, next week will be a bath
 

Ch7 reported H might be right to play, Walshy's injury is on the minor side.