Football Department Review

[Tragic]

Whatever money a club pays clarko to coach (next year) Hawthorn don't have to pay him.

So, there is an opportunity, for a club to get Clarko to coach their club next year, and pay him, literally, nothing.
Talking about it on fox footy and they used $1 as the figure.

Suggesting that you can pay Clarko $1 to coach (and he gets 900k from the hawks) and you use that extra 900k soft cap room, to beef up your department and get a leg up on everyone else.

Now, how would you do that....
Effectively 'front load' some assistant coach contracts, and hire someone else for the long term and his wages come from the money you've saved by front loading assistants.

IMO, the ability to increase you football department (for free) is a bigger coup than getting Clarko as coach.

If we do get clarko (i don't think we should), but i'd be more inclined to do so provided we don't have to pay him a cent in his first year.

Would he effectively work for free though? If we upped his $'s from 2023 he could.

I think every dollar another club pays Clarko next year is a dollar the Hawks don't have to pay.

[Gointocarlton]

I think every dollar another club pays Clarko next year is a dollar the Hawks don't have to pay.

Correct, I'd have a year off too if I was on full pay.

[kruddler]

I think every dollar another club pays Clarko next year is a dollar the Hawks don't have to pay.

Pretty sure i said that in the first line of the post you quoted.  :-\

[Tragic]

Pretty sure i said that in the first line of the post you quoted.  :-\

Yeah turns out you did. Then i got a bit lost and confused by the rest. I'm easily confused though.

[laj]

BREAKING, via Jon Anderson: "As Carlton continues a review into its football department, some findings can be revealed & don’t make for pretty reading for those in charge.
For those desperate to know how the Carlton review will go, buckle your seat belts & get ready for change.
Anderson: "Some of the findings are said to include a lack of player development, player “cliques” (with large, unjustified salaries an issue), culture deficiencies, poor behaviours, consistently long injury list & meddling from outside departments into football matters."
Anderson: "The 3-person panel will shortly table its report. Could it also include regrets from some parents that their sons were actually drafted by the club?
And do players have total faith in selection integrity? A term that first introduced during the Brendon Bolton years."
Anderson: "The other issue for Carlton over the next 2 years is an extremely tight salary cap that is going to have to find room for emerging superstar’s Sam Walsh new deal as he comes out of contract at the end of 2022. It might even mean Walsh is paid under market value."

[ElwoodBlues1]

BREAKING, via Jon Anderson: "As Carlton continues a review into its football department, some findings can be revealed & don’t make for pretty reading for those in charge.
For those desperate to know how the Carlton review will go, buckle your seat belts & get ready for change.
Anderson: "Some of the findings are said to include a lack of player development, player “cliques” (with large, unjustified salaries an issue), culture deficiencies, poor behaviours, consistently long injury list & meddling from outside departments into football matters."
Anderson: "The 3-person panel will shortly table its report. Could it also include regrets from some parents that their sons were actually drafted by the club?
And do players have total faith in selection integrity? A term that first introduced during the Brendon Bolton years."
Anderson: "The other issue for Carlton over the next 2 years is an extremely tight salary cap that is going to have to find room for emerging superstar’s Sam Walsh new deal as he comes out of contract at the end of 2022. It might even mean Walsh is paid under market value."

Cant see us risking under paying Walsh, rather lose a few other players than lose Walsh.
Brad Lloyd with a target on his back?
Player cliques?...that isnt good but a fact of life at footy clubs, Collingwood won a flag with conflicting player cliques.
Selection Integrity...we could have told the review that was an ongoing issue....unjustified salaries..really???
Luke Sayers is meant to be very friendly with Clarkson....I'd be concerned for Teague.

[laj]

Cant see us risking under paying Walsh, rather lose a few other players than lose Walsh.
Brad Lloyd with a target on his back?
Player cliques?...that isnt good but a fact of life at footy clubs, Collingwood won a flag with conflicting player cliques.
Selection Integrity...we could have told the review that was an ongoing issue....unjustified salaries..really???
Luke Sayers is meant to be very friendly with Clarkson....I'd be concerned for Teague.

Interesting what the full review comes up with. That's just a few minor snippets. Hopefully those unjustified salaries are all front ended.

[capcom]

This'll be fun.

[LP]

The fact this has leaked suggests nothing has changed.

Seriously doubt we've TPP issues.

[kruddler]

BREAKING, via Jon Anderson: "As Carlton continues a review into its football department, some findings can be revealed & don’t make for pretty reading for those in charge.
For those desperate to know how the Carlton review will go, buckle your seat belts & get ready for change.
Anderson: "Some of the findings are said to include a lack of player development, player “cliques” (with large, unjustified salaries an issue), culture deficiencies, poor behaviours, consistently long injury list & meddling from outside departments into football matters."
Anderson: "The 3-person panel will shortly table its report. Could it also include regrets from some parents that their sons were actually drafted by the club?
And do players have total faith in selection integrity? A term that first introduced during the Brendon Bolton years."
Anderson: "The other issue for Carlton over the next 2 years is an extremely tight salary cap that is going to have to find room for emerging superstar’s Sam Walsh new deal as he comes out of contract at the end of 2022. It might even mean Walsh is paid under market value."

My first take from all of that....



Just on the last point...Walsh may even be paid 'unders'. Well if we pay him overs to stay we are doing something wrong. You ALWAYS pay unders to keep your own players. You pay overs to attract new talent.