Football Department Review

[Baggers]

Interesting. You reckon we have room on the trophy wall for his stuffed and mounted head ? I'm not sure we have any available space, but his would be the biggest scalp of all.

Your rapier wit does bring a grin to this personage, Pauly.   

3rd time lucky, perhaps?? (DP & MM being one and two... but you no doubt got that ).

[Gointocarlton]

Interesting. You reckon we have room on the trophy wall for his stuffed and mounted head ? I'm not sure we have any available space, but his would be the biggest scalp of all.

I wasnt talking about him to us Pauly.

[PaulP]

I wasnt talking about him to us Pauly.

I know, but there's little doubt in my mind that our club will court him and chase him hard when he is available. Unless he flat out says no to the CFC.

[Gointocarlton]

I know, but there's little doubt in my mind that our club will court him and chase him hard when he is available. Unless he flat out says no to the CFC.

Oh sorry mate, yeah for sure. Our Head Honchos have had a hard on for Clarko for years and will not stop trying. Now that Hawthorn have made it official, I have no doubt our Club will sound out his interest. Coll will try and pry him out for next year, I reckon our mob will be thinking they need to gazump the Filth.

[PaulP]

Oh sorry mate, yeah for sure. Our Head Honchos have had a hard on for Clarko for years and will not stop trying. Now that Hawthorn have made it official, I have no doubt our Club will sound out his interest. Coll will try and pry him out for next year, I reckon our mob will be thinking they need to gazump the Filth.

Yes, quite so. But Clarkson has said a million times that he honours contracts, almost like a moral conviction, so it will be quite a volte-face for him to pike out 12 months early IMO.

[Gointocarlton]

Yes, quite so. But Clarkson has said a million times that he honours contracts, almost like a moral conviction, so it will be quite a volte-face for him to pike out 12 months early IMO.

Agree, however I reckon that was all before Haw said to him they arent going to renew (which is a first). Up until now, I reckon he hasn't wanted to go anywhere and has always had a gentlemen's agreement to keep rolling onto a new contract. Now that they have told him they wont extend, that might have changed his thinking. I think he will honour it but you never know.

[DJC]

I fail to see how you can conduct a proper review of this magnitude when one or more of the panel are doing their work through Zoom. I understand the reasons why, but they would have been better off waiting until lockdowns etc. were lifted and had everyone at HQ. It feels hobbled and compromised from the beginning. It's very difficult to get a feel for vibe, body language, mood etc. through video calls.

It's a review Paul, not an inquisition 

It's not ideal that Pav is taking part in the review remotely but I don't think that it will prevent him and the panel from identifying issues/problems that require attention.  If we wait for lockdowns and travel restrictions to be lifted, it might be 2025 before the review starts.

I think that the timing is good - for a review with no definite timeframe - and I'm hoping that we get something to act on before we need to make decisions about the list, coaches, support staff, etc.

[PaulP]

Agree, however I reckon that was all before Haw said to him they arent going to renew (which is a first). Up until now, I reckon he hasn't wanted to go anywhere and has always had a gentlemen's agreement to keep rolling onto a new contract. Now that they have told him they wont extend, that might have changed his thinking. I think he will honour it but you never know.

I guess so, but you would think the Hawks would be pulling every financial, legal, emotional trick to get him to honour his word, knowing full well that half the competition is talking to Clarkson's manager as I type. They'll be left in the lurch if next year becomes a holding pattern, with Mitchell having to come in too early, or Bolts or Newman or someone else to fill in.

[DJC]

Sounds like bad luck for the Clarkson boosters, it seems he is staying until Mitchell succeeds him in 2023.

I realise quite a few of you predicted this, that Clarkson would see out his contract and then be done with AFL coaching. He has basically implied that to the media in press conferences for the last 12 months and they ignore him! It says more about how disingenuous the AFL media is than it does about Clarkson.

It seems that Mitchell has withdrawn his application for the Pies job and apparently because he realises (or has been told) that he's not ready to be senior coach.  Clarko made his opinions very clear on the folly of appointing recently retired players as head coaches not so long ago.

So, Clarko has another season at the Hawks (at least) and will not be tempted by the Pies (or us) to break his contract.  The Pies have the jump on the field and should secure the best available coach and, presumably, new assistants.  That will mean a fairly shallow pool and little chance of Teague getting moved on - not that I think that was a realistic scenario, regardless of the review.

To my mind, the review is more about shoring up Teague's position by providing better support and addressing any inadequacies in our footy department.

[PaulP]

It's a review Paul, not an inquisition 

It's not ideal that Pav is taking part in the review remotely but I don't think that it will prevent him and the panel from identifying issues/problems that require attention.  If we wait for lockdowns and travel restrictions to be lifted, it might be 2025 before the review starts.

I think that the timing is good - for a review with no definite timeframe - and I'm hoping that we get something to act on before we need to make decisions about the list, coaches, support staff, etc.

If they are hoping for stability and wins this season, I think the timing and announcement is terrible. If this season is already declared a write off, then yes, I guess the timing is fair enough. Personally, I think they should have waited until the end of the year and done a full club review, from top to bottom, including the Board. In fact, if they were only going to do one part of the club, that would be it IMO.