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Football Department Review
(06-25-2021, 01:33 AM)Baggers link Wrote:They were both given different expectations which led to different priorities for them to be assessed by. After 2 years, BB had fulfilled his expectations. In years 3 and 4 we changed the expectation for BB.

Did you look at that round 1 team?
The one that had the likes of tuohy, Everett, Jamison playing?

What development was going on in that match?
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(06-25-2021, 01:33 AM)Baggers date Wrote:They were both given different expectations which led to different priorities for them to be assessed by. After 2 years, BB had fulfilled his expectations. In years 3 and 4 we changed the expectation for BB.
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BB and SOS turned over lots of numbers, but in hindsight delivered almost 0% player development and perhaps even derailed a few careers, although I concede this might not be Bolton's fault he had a long time to do something about it and failed dismally.

Which is ironic given BB's in that role again at the Dawks, but at the Dawks they develop players in the VFL, not the AFL which is a key difference!

The comments from many experts about us playing kids too soon and for too long when they did not deserve the run sits heavily in this debate, and is ironically ignored by many as they call for kids to be played yet again!

I also fear that some of the current environment activity has links going back to the SOS departure, I'm not confident that hasn't yet played itself out! We are talking about an AFL dynasty with decades of foundations.
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(06-25-2021, 01:48 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Did you look at that round 1 team?
The one that had the likes of tuohy, Everett, Jamison playing?

What development was going on in that match?

3 Leos old son, let's just agree to disagree... neither of us is going to succeed in persuading the other to our own viewpoint.  Smile  Smile
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This is from Daniel O'Keefe's VFL player review:

Quote:It was a nice game from Murph in regards to the way he attacked the game from a mindset point of view, he was really clear with his directive and had clarity on a role and what we wanted to get out of it.

That's "coachspeak" and may require translation but does it mean that Murphy hasn't had clarity about his role?
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(06-25-2021, 03:36 AM)DJC link Wrote:This is from Daniel O'Keefe's VFL player review:

That's "coachspeak" and may require translation but does it mean that Murphy hasn't had clarity about his role?
Not necessarily.

Its more...."Go back to the 2's and focus on this. You will be judged on how well you do this. "
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(06-25-2021, 03:40 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Not necessarily.

Its more...."Go back to the 2's and focus on this. You will be judged on how well you do this. "

Possibly, but Murphy has played a different role in the reserves; one that suits his skillset and one that he is used to.
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(06-24-2021, 11:38 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Teague's early success is not hard to figure out. We should all be pretty worried about what's happened since then. His record in 2019 won't save his ar$e. As far as the club is concerned, it's ancient history.

Last year just a couple of choked last qtrs late in the season against the Pies and Giants likely cost a finals spot. It was still the best season we had since 2013. This year has dropped although we have been scoreboard competitive in every single game. Not acceptable given the poor attitude we have approached those games but it is still light years better than 4 wins from 43 games. Not to mention the embarrassment of those defeats. Who can every forget being outscored 7 goals to 1 in a qtr by a side that had 16 men.

Issue now is to sort the culture and every that goes with that.
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They were discussing Carlton sounding out assistant coaches prior to the review on Footy classified the other night.
As the discussion finished Eddie added this little bit…

Eddie: ….But the other part of it is this…If Luke Sayers is running this, he’s no fool, he knows exactly what he’s doing, he’s not telling anybody, but he knows exactly what’s going on, he may well be a committee of one... lining things up to be executed.

Caro: But why bring in all these experts to have a review?

Eddie: To shut the media up. Wink  ;D
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Murphy has 5 games to go to get to his 300?...then he wont be part of the team anymore so bothering about what role he is doing is of no importance. The sooner he is sorted the better...
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(06-25-2021, 04:52 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Murphy has 5 games to go to get to his 300?...then he wont be part of the team anymore so bothering about what role he is doing is of no importance. The sooner he is sorted the better...

Forget about Murphy.  The question is whether our players understand their roles.  Several posters have remarked on how our players seem confused.  If a bloke who is approaching his 300th game has to have his role clarified by the reserves coach (who seems to know what he is doing), is there a communication problem that is hampering our ability to execute the gameplan?
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