Football Department Review

[LP]

With the various investments the club has made, they weren't looking for a move from "mostly honourable losses with a few hidings" to "all honourable losses". As far as the club is concerned, that's not good enough, hence the review.

 It's based on a false premise, a premise many of us never bought into, but those who did pay those those who sold it a handsome dividend!

[Lods]

We're competing against more teams these days but if we fail to make the finals this year it will be the longest period (8 years) that we've gone without a finals appearance in our history.

I think the last thing we're being is impatient.

[LP]

I think the last thing we're being is impatient.

What does that have to do with Teague, he's only been officially in charge since August 2019, not even 24 months yet?

The impatience I refer to is clearly in reference to Teague's regime, and fans heaping the failings of history onto the new guy.

I think Barker made a timely exit, he'd been there since the downfall.

[Lods]

What does that have to do with Teague, he's only been in charge since August 2019?

I think Barker made a timely exit, he'd been there since the downfall.

As the President said
It's not all about Teague.
Although folks seem to be concentrating on that aspect at the moment.
(Perhaps worrying about the tree rather than the forest.)
It's about the football department as a whole.

As I recall the club were at pains to say that the replacement of Bolton was just a step in the continuation of the rebuild.

[PaulP]

It's based on a false premise, a premise many of us never bought into, but those who did pay those those who sold it a handsome dividend!

I'm not sure who is included or excluded in the "many", but there seems a lot of people "out there" (fans, media, ex players like Walls, Maclure) who thought we would and should be doing better than we are.

[LP]

As the President said
It's not all about Teague.
Although folks seem to be concentrating on that aspect at the moment.
(Perhaps worrying about the tree rather than the forest.)
It's about the football department as a whole.

As I recall the club were at pains to say that the replacement of Bolton was just a step in the continuation of the rebuild.

Teague isn't even in the field of view, he is so irrelevant to the history influencing this debate he should be excluded from the review.

The club's silence on this matter is a disgrace, it reeks of internal politics, it reeks of Teague not having the full support of the board.

[PaulP]

Teague isn't even in the field of view, he is so irrelevant to the history influencing this debate he should be excluded from the review.

The club's silence on this matter is a disgrace, it reeks of internal politics, it reeks of Teague not having the full support of the board.

I agree. He should not be crucified for the sins of the past, but the club is angling for change, and he may be, in true Carlton style, the next scapegoat.

[Lods]

The club's silence on this matter is a disgrace, it reeks of internal politics, it reeks of Teague not having the full support of the board.

Internal Politics?
At Carlton? :o  :o

It's the very reason the review is half-baked. :

[PaulP]

I don't want to see Teague sacked, because I don't think it will solve our problems, but even the most one eyed Carlton supporter would have to concede that the entire club, from Board to recruiting, to coach, to players, has been amateurish this season.

[Baggers]

Why is it an either discussion is a more important reason for why Bolton is drawing criticism and why Teague is also similarly in trouble.

In Bolton's first year as coach, minus a few young draftees by the name of Weitering, Charlie and JSOS, Bolton had a list that actually was ready to compete at AFL level.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/20...60324.html

Teague's biggest criticism seems to be about not playing enough of the youngsters, but at the same time we criticised (and then sacked Bolton) for much the same by the end.

The truth is, the clubs Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde swings and roundabouts are the biggest issue we face.

They were both given different expectations which led to different priorities for them to be assessed by. After 2 years, BB had fulfilled his expectations. In years 3 and 4 we changed the expectation for BB.