Post Game Frustrations: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS

[Lods]

Kennedy was good tonight but is that soldier like Ed who will give effort but isnt ever going to be a game breaker but at least he gave effort and he should have been played in the middle more often and got more games.

We need soldiers.
He needs consistency.

[sydneybluesfan]

Just back from watching my 3rd game live in 4 weeks - my 11yo son is still to see them win a game live!

Anyone who thinks their is not a huge problem is having themselves on - the difference in work rate, effort and intensity between us and our opponents is staggeringly bad. And our opponents know it - the opposition midfielders lick their lips when they play us because it will be the easiest 25 possession game they will get all year, and their is little of chance of even getting tackled.

The first half was appalling coming off 2 terrible efforts - they had 2 weeks to prepare and they laid 20 odd tackles. Every time the ball went inside 50 they looked likely to score. At half time 5 of our starting backline had not laid a tackle during 30 inside 50’s - it’s simply amazing that could even statistically happen.

When we lift our intensity and play with some spirit for 10-15 minutes we look competitive and we can score. But then we get opened up so easily and we can’t sustain the effort. It’s been exactly the same thing each week.

I can’t see Teague surviving - it’s not just the losses but how easily we turn it up. Opposition teams pay us zero respect and nor should they - they know if they just keep running and putting pressure on us we will fold and give up the fight. We are reduced to a laughing stock.

The club needs a Ross Lyon or Clarko to get the physical standards and effort levels to a much higher level than what they are now. It is simply soul destroying to watch how insipid this group has become and like most on here I’m finding it very hard to maintain any interest or passion given what they are currently dishing up. 

[laj]

The club needs a Ross Lyon or Clarko to get the physical standards and effort levels to a much higher level than what they are now. It is simply soul destroying to watch how insipid this group has become and like most on here I’m finding it very hard to maintain any interest or passion given what they are currently dishing up.

We've had that. Same result. Not many with better records and a harder edge than Malthouse. Same thing, decent first year, by the 3rd year players had turned their toes up. Same with the next two coaches, good first year, 3rd year and they've turned up their toes.

[rocky]

Yep, same old same old. Just a shame that someone like Walsh has ended up with us. How demoralising. You only have to watch any kick-out from any opposition  to see where we are at. No pressure. No intensity. No accountability. It's as though the direction is to give your opponent the out. Maybe the thinking is if we allow the uncontested possession for long enough our opponent's will turn it over and we'll make them pay.

[Micky0]

You only have to watch any kick-out from any opposition  to see where we are at. No pressure. No intensity. No accountability.

This is what i don’t get - where does this come from? Who ever on any footy ground no matter the league, find it acceptable? I just don’t get it.

[Macca37]

This is what i don’t get - where does this come from? Who ever on any footy ground no matter the league, find it acceptable? I just don’t get it.

I believe that constant bad decisions made with the trading of players and at the draft over at least the past fifteen years or so have finally come to bite us on the backside.

We had expected the signing of "hero" players such as Judd would be the answer to moving up the ladder and ignored the problems that come with having a non competitive list year after year.

When injuries are taken into account we have been left with too many players of mediocre ability getting games every week because the cupboard is bare and there is no pressure to perform. 

We have reached the point where in addition to our lack of skills we have players whose mental attitude is also in question - where they believe turning up and going through the motions is good enough because they will still be paid for minimum effort and no consequences.

If the external review recommends that we need a new coach and/or a rebuild, then so be it.

Surely the disgraceful first half tonight must be a line in the sand moment. 

[capcom]

It was truly deplorable.  I do however, detect an undercurrent of player frustration with the game plan and maybe some sour views of our recent recruits and their contracts.

4 / 9 is nowhere near where I expected we'd be.  Been saying for weeks we were never going to play finals and that is now an impossible target.

It's not just on Teague by any stretch.  Half hearted efforts by a large group of players is demoralising and for many, simply inexcusable.

God help me, I could go on, but this is, largely, a selfish list.  I was just a kid when we won '68 and my father had waited since '45 for a flag.  I asked him night prior how he'd feel if we lost.

He looked up at me and simply said, "a bear with a sore head".

And here I am today, having waited longer .... 

[Professer E]

Hasn't bringing in all these hired guns like Martin on big coin been a roaring success.

Examples need to be made.  The fact that blokes get dropped and barely go at half rat power in the two's highlights that they aren't the blokes we need.  Fine.  Here's your money,  now GAFO.  Play people who want it,  and if required.... go and find some.

[cookie2]

For whatever reasons, and we can go on speculating, player morale is clearly shot based on last night’s performance alone. No belief and no sustained effort. If the review fails to address the true causes of this then it will be yet another waste of time and our suffering will continue. I am even more depressed.

[BluePhantom]

Carlton's review has finished and the findings have been published.
The thorough external review went through the whole club and came to the conclusion late last night.
Two issues have been reported on and highlighted.
The review panel found for the last 20 years player's sandwiches have been cut in squares, but all players preferred triangles.
The other stark finding was players were not having bed time stories read to them.
This startling finding has forced the club to form a committee on how to tackle the problems.
This news creates an obvious explanation as to why each Carlton team who has run out for the last 20 years has no resemblance to any Carlton team prior.
A spokesman from the club who was excited by the news said, it's only a matter of time for the famous Carlton swagger to be back.