CV and mad panic behaviour

[cookie2]

Combating the long term effects of COVID:

https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles...xiO2DbuxS8

I can’t wait to get my second AstraZeneca jab!

Mine is next week.  I'm happy to go ahead with it.

[Thryleon]

Or maybe life under Dictator Boris would be better. Imagine, 4 months of restrictions ...

But surely everyone saw what was hiding in plain sight with that name. Those Russians have taken over the Tory party in the UK just as they took over the GOP in the US! God those commies are sneaky! But I guess we can’t believe our lyin eyes as your brother says that this is all fake news.

Now Gladys has been dragged kicking and screaming into a mask mandate and maybe more to come. But then again her surname sounds like it would have fitted into the former Soviet bloc, so maybe this was always about a commie infiltration.

Love you hard right types. Your freedoms trump everyone else’s. You can do whatever you want while others can only do what doesn’t interfere with you or deviate from what you think they should be doing.

Hard right...

We don't need to imagine 4 months of restrictions.  We actually lived it.

I am advocating that people be left to their civil freedoms.

You are advocating infringing on others.  Which ones the fascist??

Ill give you a clue, it aint me.  You are welcome to lock yourself up, but if the vaccine works as well as everyone says it does, once you are vaccinated, you should be an advocate of letting it rip.  If not, you are just controlling others.  Right?

Looks like someone has identified a trait in themselves they dislike and like to attack in others if you ask me.  I am giving you the freedom to lock down just dont mandate everyone do as you do.

[Mav]

Wow, I’ve gone from Communist to Fascist in the space of 1 tweet. I’m waiting with bated breath for the next tweet but I fear you’ve gone too hard too early. You should have left a little ammunition in reserve ...

[ElwoodBlues1]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/astrazeneca-an...p_deeplink

[LP]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/astrazeneca-an...p_deeplink

For people already infected it's unlikely for any vaccine or antibody therapy to work well, it takes weeks for full immunity to build. It's a bit of a moon shot!

I've read some people on social media comparing this antibody therapy to fecal transplants, but that is very wrong. A fecal transplant introduces good bacteria to compete with and displace bad bacteria. It's a war in your gut not in your blood stream, and you probably have this happen dozens of time per year whenever you ingest some raw food.

Foreign antibodies introduced to your blood stream are not a normal occurrence.

For me that report just proves how important it is to be vaccinated before you get a Sars-Cov-2 infection.

Personally, without having any expertise, I think antibody therapies are far far riskier than the vaccines. Vaccines cause your own body to make it's own antibodies, antibody therapy introduces a foreign or synthetic antibody. There is a possibility when introducing a foreign antibody that someone's immune system will react strongly.

Making your own antibodies is a normal everyday occurrence, from pretty much any infection based illness.

Phage therapy is very popular in the Soviet block, it's closer to antibody therapy, but when it goes wrong it's seriously devastating.

[LP]

Pot meet kettle.

Tin foil hat theory.

It lives in the same area as the pandemic is a control mechanism and doesn't actually exist.

Not really, it's just general commentary on human nature, all those panels are susceptible to the authorities that select them. You might see a whistle-blower, but usually that comes after the fact, very rarely do they stick up their head before the battle is decided. They exist in self-preservation.

Surely you are not asserting that people don't have motives for different behaviours, because based on all you have to say about the lockdown so far that would seem to be cherry-picking!

We bump the age limit up to 60, some jurisdictions drop it to 40, both cite the very same science as justification for acting exactly opposite. Some locations have even approved AZ for kids. That is about bureaucracy and human nature, nothing to do with science.

If they really wanted to just follow the science, they'd be recommending AZ for men and Pfizer for women, regardless of age. But they won't because the woke feminists will scream murder and misogyny. So instead they just set an genderless whatever the feck you identify as age bracket.

[LP]

Combating the long term effects of COVID:

https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles...xiO2DbuxS8

I can’t wait to get my second AstraZeneca jab!

Yep, feck that long COVID, even if you had a mild infection you could be in for long term pain.

The naysayers in the media and politics just aren't respecting the long term effects of a Sars-CoV-2 infection. They spend all their time talking about the deaths, ignoring the disabilities. I think that Nature Podcast I linked asserted much the same, it talks a bit about QALY and DALY.

[ElwoodBlues1]

For people already infected it's unlikely for any vaccine or antibody therapy to work well, it takes weeks for full immunity to build. It's a bit of a moon shot!

I've read some people on social media comparing this antibody therapy to fecal transplants, but that is very wrong. A fecal transplant introduces good bacteria to compete with and displace bad bacteria. It's a war in your gut not in your blood stream, and you probably have this happen dozens of time per year whenever you ingest the some raw food.

Foreign antibodies in introduced to your blood stream are not a normal occurrence.

For me that report just proves how important it is to be vaccinated before you get a Sars-Cov-2 infection.

Personally, without having any expertise, I think antibody therapies are far far riskier than the vaccines. Vaccines cause your own body to make it's own antibodies, antibody therapy introduces a foreign or synthetic antibody. There is a possibility when introducing a foreign antibody that someone's immune system will react strongly.

Making your own antibodies is a normal everyday occurrence, from pretty much any infection based illness.

Phage therapy is very popular in the Soviet block, it's closer to antibody therapy, but when it goes wrong it's seriously devastating.

Not my field of expertise, its an interesting angle in treatment but seems full of issues, risks, lack of conclusive results..
This link is a bit of an overview of it all, you are right about the Russians dabbling with it although no data available.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/article...antibodies

[LP]

Not my field of expertise, its an interesting angle in treatment but seems full of issues, risks, lack of conclusive results..
This link is a bit of an overview of it all, you are right about the Russians dabbling with it although no data available.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/article...antibodies

While there are legitimate hopes for macrophage therapy in treating very serious illness, like cancer, over in Russia it's their health system version of homeopathy. They use it for everything, with extreme claims it can cure poorness, change your luck, or even make your dingle dangle longer!

There are stories of miracle cures for people western medicine had given up on, but there are stories of young wannabe girls going to be treated for acne and ending up on a slab in a morgue!

That is not to say monoclonal antibody or macrophage research isn't worthwhile or isn't viable, but it would be truly ironic for vaccine naysayers to boost either ahead of a 50 year old vaccine technology like AZ or Novavax!

[PaulP]

https://theconversation.com/concerned-ab...isk-162175