CV and mad panic behaviour

[Mav]

Interesting counterpoint in the UK. The conservative Government has just extended their lockdown for 4 more weeks. This is despite 60% of the population having had the first dose vaccine. And it’s also despite the current total of infections being a mere fraction of those at the peak a few months back. But the move was driven by a fairly steep recent rise (off a small base) that is blamed on the Delta variant. The hope is that the extended lockdown buys time to ensure 80% of the population can be vaccinated.

Many Tory MPs are frothing at the mouth, saying the lockdown is too excessive given the sorts of concerns raised in this thread.

Bear in mind Australia has botched its vaccination program and only around 20% of the population has received a 1st dose and hardly anyone has had the 2nd.

[LP]

Interesting counterpoint in the UK. The conservative Government has just extended their lockdown for 4 more weeks.

Yes, you have to wonder what they know regarding the health and financial costs of COVID-19.

I'd imagine if we'd been at that level of vaccination our country would be wide open under Scotty from Marketing.

[capcom]

The message is "own the criminal" and it must apply in this instance.  It surely will

[Mav]

WWG1WGA

[Thryleon]

The UK "lock downs"  are not what people here think they are.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-52530518

Some Covid restrictions in England will stay in place for now, the government has confirmed.

It had hoped to "remove all legal limits on social contact" from 21 June. That's been put back until 19 July - although a review will take place in two weeks.

So, this is what has been announced today.  FYI, my brother lives in London so I have a local viewpoint of what has been going on as well even though it is through one persons lens.

in any case:

What's been announced?

The delay is because of concerns over the Delta variant of Covid. Cases are growing by about 64% per week and in the worst affected areas are doubling, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said.

More time is needed to vaccinate people before remaining rules can be lifted, the PM said.

However, a few restrictions are being lifted:

    The number of guests at a wedding will no longer be limited to 30, although venues and hosts will have to do a risk assessment to ensure social distancing can take place (similar rules apply to wakes)
    Care home residents will not necessarily have to self-isolate after leaving their care homes, and they will be able to nominate an "essential care-giver" who can visit, even if they are self-isolating
    Children can go on overnight trips in groups of 30 with, for example, the Scouts or Guides, or as part of summer residential schools
    Also, large events pilots will continue, including more Euro 2020 games and a number of other sports, arts and music events

There is a lot in there, but fork me, if we are going to compare the pandemic impact, to people who are currently free to travel across europe (never mind their own nation) we might want to visit what "restrictions" look like for them.

Ill re-iterate something here.  The English Premier League season, and European Champions League was hindered for a few weeks in total, and has had the odd spot fire and for the most part continued without fans as scheduled.

Look whats happening here by contrast.  FWIW, my brother just attended a music festival this weekend in Reading.  (Outside of his LGA).


AS an aside, I am a follower of Jason Byrne (irish comedian) and he calls the Irish government, (Gobsh-ites) as being lacksdaisacal with the approach. 

[LP]

Look whats happening here by contrast.  FWIW, my brother just attended a music festival this weekend in Reading.  (Outside of his LGA).

Does your brother get to Madejski Stadium much?

I've seen a few games there, soccer and rugby union, it's a reasonable venue for something privately owned and developed.

[Mav]

Yes, the UK lockdown is different. For a start, it’s a NATIONAL lockdown that’s 4 months old and the restrictions and it’s now in Stage 4, with the earlier restrictions being harsher. And they now have 60% of their population protected by a first dose. When will we be able to claim that; maybe at the end of this year if we’re lucky? But if we were at 60% right now, I’d imagine heads would be exploding in Melbourne if we still had any lockdown.

And don’t minimise the current restrictions: the Brits certainly aren’t: Restaurants & Pubs “face collapse” during extended England lockdown, the Guardian.

The Night Time Industries Association chief executive, Michael Kill, said the government had “switched the lights off” for the sector by extending restrictions – which include a bar on nightclubs reopening and limits on large events and performances – without offering any new help.

An NTIA survey found that one in four night-time economy firms, such as nightclubs and bars, don’t expect to survive the extra four weeks.

And we’re in our 2nd week of lockdown with a lessening of restrictions after the 1st week.

[Thryleon]

Does your brother get to Madejski Stadium much?

I've seen a few games there, soccer and rugby union, it's a reasonable venue for something privately owned and developed.

I couldn't tell you he's in the notting hill area and has spent the last year hanging out with his mates and not adhering to their "strict" lockdowns in which you could go and do whatever with minimal policing.

[Thryleon]

Yes, the UK lockdown is different. For a start, it’s a NATIONAL lockdown that’s 4 months old and the restrictions and it’s now in Stage 4, with the earlier restrictions being harsher. And they now have 60% of their population protected by a first dose. When will we be able to claim that; maybe at the end of this year if we’re lucky? But if we were at 60% right now, I’d imagine heads would be exploding in Melbourne if we still had any lockdown.

And don’t minimise the current restrictions: the Brits certainly aren’t: Restaurants & Pubs “face collapse” during extended England lockdown, the Guardian.And we’re in our 2nd week of lockdown with a lessening of restrictions after the 1st week.

You would have to live there to understand their lockdowns but my brother had a better Easter and Christmas than we did in the height of their lockdowns. 

[Mav]

I’m guessing he doesn’t like going to nightclubs ...