CV and mad panic behaviour

[northernblue]

As l read here I keep wondering when Pete Evans is going to pop up…

[Mav]

Interesting article in the Age today in which medical people note that the Covid response has crushed seasonal flu in Australia.

There hasn’t been a single flu death reported in 2021, and there were less than 40 in 2020. This compares to more than 800 in 2019, a particularly bad season.
There were just nine cases of the flu confirmed in the first week of this month, according to the Immunisation Coalition. So far this year, there have been just 60 notifications of influenza in Victoria and 32 in NSW. Queensland has seen the most cases – at 171.

I guess we have to say Covid measures have saved around 1500 lives that would have been lost to influenza. And a few people vying for the Darwin Award have been saved from themselves as well: fewer people falling off cliffs while taking selfies or having their heads splattered by trees while sticking them out of trains to feed pictures to their instagram accounts.

[capcom]

Perhaps we should all "celebrate" after a "conversation" ... I'm sure Bandt and Fauci will be along to suggest we must "follow the science".  :

[kruddler]

Interesting article in the Age today in which medical people note that the Covid response has crushed seasonal flu in Australia.

I guess we have to say Covid measures have saved around 1500 lives that would have been lost to influenza. And a few people vying for the Darwin Award have been saved from themselves as well: fewer people falling off cliffs while taking selfies or having their heads splattered by trees while sticking them out of trains to feed pictures to their instagram accounts.

Why don't we continue lockdowns in the future during peak flu season. We could save MORE lives then.

Given that the flu is kills more australians than covid.

While we are at it, lets reduce all speed limits to 30km/h. Lower speeds = lower deaths. Hell, lets make it 20, we'll save more!

There is a limit to how practical it is to saving lives.

[Mav]

Sorry. I should have realised that only negative side-effects of the Covid response are to be considered. Let’s speculate about suicides instead.

You note I referred to side-effects. That’s because the goal was to reduce deaths and serious harm from Covid. And we’ve hit it out of the park so far. No doubt we’re all very happy about that.

[kruddler]

Sorry. I should have realised that only negative side-effects of the Covid response are to be considered. Let’s speculate about suicides instead.

You note I referred to side-effects. That’s because the goal was to reduce deaths and serious harm from Covid. And we’ve hit it out of the park so far. No doubt we’re all very happy about that.

If the goal is to reduce deaths and ignore whatever other effects might be occuring, then there is a job at the AFL in the rules committee for them. Unintended consequences mean anything?

As i said, if reducing deaths at the expense of everything else is all that matters, reduce the speed limit.....or ban cars altogether. ZERO deaths from vehicles!

[Mav]

And that’s where the dramatic reduction in flu deaths comes in. It’s an unintended consequence which must be weighed against any negative unintended consequence. 1500 lives saved is a pretty handy offset in that regard, don’t you think?

[PaulP]

Sometimes these things are annoying at the start, and then just become habits that you no longer really think about. Speed reductions around school zones were introduced in 2001. There was of course the usual outrage about impracticality, inconvenience etc., but now it makes perfect sense. And speed limits for cars in urban areas have tended to come down, not up.

[Thryleon]

I reckon if we kill everyone on the planet by lethal injection, we'll be more environmentally friendly, prevent all car accidents,  plane crashes, save millions of animals from slaughterhouses, eliminate cancer deaths,  flu deaths etc.

Best part is, Carlton will go down in history as having won the most grand finals.

[Thryleon]

Sometimes these things are annoying at the start, and then just become habits that you no longer really think about. Speed reductions around school zones were introduced in 2001. There was of course the usual outrage about impracticality, inconvenience etc., but now it makes perfect sense. And speed limits for cars in urban areas have tended to come down, not up.

40 zones still annoy the crap out of me and I'd love to see the stats on their impact on road safety.  Id wager minimal impact statistically.