06-11-2021, 07:43 AM
These individuals are being paid by the Carlton football club I presume?.....
Sayers and Liddle will be an interesting work dynamic.
Sayers and Liddle will be an interesting work dynamic.
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06-11-2021, 07:43 AM
These individuals are being paid by the Carlton football club I presume?.....
Sayers and Liddle will be an interesting work dynamic.
06-11-2021, 09:10 AM
(06-11-2021, 07:43 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:These individuals are being paid by the Carlton football club I presume?.....Why do you say that EB?
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06-11-2021, 09:56 AM
(06-11-2021, 09:10 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Why do you say that EB?GTC.. Its like auditors, they are paid to report on a companies finances but often its about reporting in a way that suits the Directors of the company. Many companies will change auditors to get the results displayed in a more pleasing format to shareholders. I'm not sure what agenda Liddle has and what his desired outcome is. I think Sayers will be more impartial and be looking for a honest appraisal but I'm not so sure Liddle will be so invested and will be looking after team Liddle first.
06-11-2021, 10:20 AM
(06-11-2021, 09:56 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:GTC.. Its like auditors, they are paid to report on a companies finances but often its about reporting in a way that suits the Directors of the company. Many companies will change auditors to get the results displayed in a more pleasing format to shareholders. Always interesting to see who sets the scope and who pays the bill The one thing the announcement does clarify Is that it is the footy dept only. This probably makes Liddle’s involvement a little more palatable, as, although he has ultimate responsibility for the footy dept, at least it’s not directly his dept.
06-11-2021, 10:31 AM
(06-11-2021, 10:20 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:Always interesting to see who sets the scope and who pays the billBrad Lloyd and Mick Agresta are his mates and make up team Liddle and I expect both of them to come under some scrutiny. I would presume Liddle would have both their backs and I'm hoping its a truly independent review and all members of the footy dept are scrutinized equally and that mates dont look after mates. Lloyd in particular I hope is reviewed well and that any shortcomings are not swept under the rug and that Teague isnt the fall guy. Sayers seems a smart operator and hopefully can guide the review to set us on the right direction, I dont really want Liddle having a over riding influence.
06-11-2021, 10:42 AM
I don't trust the outcome of this review at all. Deeply cynical and suspect most Carlton supporters will be thinking the same.
06-11-2021, 12:03 PM
This bit is interesting:
"This panel will be led by incoming President Luke Sayers with the support of CEO Cain Liddle, and the final report with its recommendations will be delivered to the Carlton Football Club Board." I'd keep Liddle well away from any influence on the review/report. He's clearly a politician - and I have no doubt he will attempt to influence this to his own ends. I have no faith in that guy. I reckon he'd literally give away memberships to inflate our numbers to make himself look good... oh wait... that's exactly what he did. Fooking flog.
06-11-2021, 01:34 PM
I find it hard to believe that anyone worth their salt would conduct a review, or provide any other service, without being paid by the organisation seeking the review or service. Of course, Lowe, Walsh and Pavlich are being paid by the club and that certainly doesn't mean that they will pull their punches. Perhaps the club should have called for volunteers to have conducted a review for free ... that would work out really well :
The club has picked three independent, well-qualified blokes who are in no way beholden to the club and I reckon their review will knock a few scabs off. Having worked with internal and external auditors, I know that they don't give a fat rat's clacker about who is paying their bills ... and they're in deep sh1t if they don't comply with Australian Auditing Standards. I'm a lot happier after reading the President's email.
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06-11-2021, 02:34 PM
(06-11-2021, 01:34 PM)DJC link Wrote:I find it hard to believe that anyone worth their salt would conduct a review, or provide any other service, without being paid by the organisation seeking the review or service. Of course, Lowe, Walsh and Pavlich are being paid by the club and that certainly doesn't mean that they will pull their punches. Perhaps the club should have called for volunteers to have conducted a review for free ... that would work out really well :I'll disagree on the latter, companies on the asx change auditors to change the perspective of reports all the time. Its often an item on voting forms for shareholders to approve especially with companies struggling or looking to capital raise. Hopefully the club provide details of expenses of the review in the annual report. I'm always interested in how much money is spent on these type of workplace evaluations and where the money went.
06-11-2021, 10:02 PM
So the cynic in me thinks Harry is about to walk and the review is a smokescreen to absolve the club of the blame.
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