CV and mad panic behaviour

[LP]

I hope the road tripper gets the book chucked at them. What an idiotic act.

Yet TBC, it's come out they were allegedly travelling under an official exemption because they were moving house to a new job in Qld.

[ElwoodBlues1]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/australian-wom...09524.html

So its safe for over 50's to have the Astraz?...I thought only younger people were at risk.

[Mav]

Yet TBC, it's come out they were allegedly travelling under an official exemption because they were moving house to a new job in Qld.

But which government issued the exemption? Surely a road trip thru NSW & Qld would have needed exemptions from both NSW & Qld govts to cross the borders as well as an exemption from Vic to leave the lockdown area ...

The suggestion in media reports was that the route taken seemed to be well chosen if the desire had been to avoid border checkpoints.

[LP]

But which government issued the exemption? Surely a road trip thru NSW & Qld would have needed exemptions from both NSW & Qld govts to cross the borders as well as an exemption from Vic to leave the lockdown area ...

The suggestion in media reports was that the route taken seemed to be well chosen if the desire had been to avoid border checkpoints.

 Were the borders actually closed?

[Gointocarlton]

Were the borders actually closed?

I thought I read they were.

[LP]

So its safe for over 50's to have the Astraz?...I thought only younger people were at risk.

Age makes no difference, the side effects from any of the available vaccines are applicable to all ages with an ever so slight increase in risk for women on prescription birth control.

The age things floated around are in general a political / bureaucratic decision.

[bratblue]

Got my astra today, no side effects.  It was good to see so many people getting the jab in Hastings. The clinic I went to were doing 250 a day.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Age makes no difference, the side effects from any of the available vaccines are applicable to all ages with an ever so slight increase in risk for women on prescription birth control.

The age things floated around are in general a political / bureaucratic decision.

Why did they stop Astraz for u50's?

[PaulP]

Why did they stop Astraz for u50's?

Politics, not science.

[LP]

Why did they stop Astraz for u50's?

They made that decision before they had all the data, based on the German 30s that suffered clots, the alleged link had been made between birth control and clots. Once Germany blinked, Europe and the UK followed, before they had the numbers. Now it looks like the data suggests that overall the vaccines reduce total clotting cases per million, however, there is no win in politics to sell that message.

In reality, it shouldn't even be males in this restriction, it should just be females on birth control and even then the link is tenuous, but I gather they fear that would appear sexist. The feminists would accuse men of hogging the vaccine!

In any case, the latest data coming through suggests they now have a good handle on diagnosis and as such treating this, it won't prevent 100% of cases just as the vaccine won't stop 100% of COVID-19, but it will further reduce the severe risks.

The risks are so so low [member=57]ElwoodBlues1[/member]‍, if we applied the same level of fear to football, nobody would ever take enough risk to score a goal! We'd all be nil all draw soccer fans instead of AFL, maybe there is something in that when you look at the regions that first initiated the restrictions? :o