Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

[kruddler]

We lost to Collingwood - Aren’t they 3rd last and also lost to a VFL version of west coast. Is that team they fielded today a top side?  Please.

How many times do i need to talk about your inability to comprehend English before you actually learn to read what i write?

Prediction is based on nothing but exposed form.
We lose to top 8 sides.
We beat sides outside the 8......but lose 1 we shouldn't.

That gets you to 11-11.

That was the collingwood game you speak of.

Keep up mate.

[Micky0]

We lost to Collingwood - Aren’t they 3rd last and also lost to a VFL version of west coast. Is that team they fielded today a top side?  Please.

How you think beating GWS away after the bye is any easier then our last 2 losses is beyond me.

Your correct our 4 wins were against bottom sides but all 4 we should have comfortably accounted for yet all except the dockers were underwhelming wins.
We lost to 4 top teams imo in Melbourne, bulldogs, port and tigers.
The other losses were to teams we should be beating imo if we had improved as we all expected but we failed all those challenges.

Hope your right about us storming home but it’s more wishful thinking then reading our formline so far.
A midfield consisting of Cripps who looks about as unfit as any midfielder I’ve ever seen, a 50 game star In Walsh and then a cooked tagger in Ed so good luck trying to compete with anyone with any confidence when thats your midfield. And remind me all the stars we have waiting on the injury front to help fill those massive holes.  We are miles off it.

Time to take off the blue glasses mate.

I tend to agree

There is no spark. There’s no hunger to play to the death. We start well but then when things don’t go our way - we kick too many behinds or the oppo get a run on, it almost seems like you can see them say this is too hard and then just play it out and mid speed.

It’s bloody annoying to watch.

We will not win most of our next games, in fact I think we’ll capitulate badly because there’s really now nothing left to play for.  Those on contracts are on good $ and not up for renewal and those that are up for renewal well we’re still waiting on. How many times have I heard over the last 6-8 weeks that Cripps is as good as a done deal. Where’s the Farging signed contract then? Where’s McKays? He’s leadinf the Coleman and we’re still farting around.

This team just craps me. I used to love footy and would watch most games every weekend, couldn’t get enough of it and other games mattered because they’d matter to our chances and our place on the ladder.  But since they bought in Malthouse And barring that final against Richmond, it’s just been misery. My partner and I rarely watch other games now, our interest has gone snd we know sure as anything that when our season is in our hands, We frigging do nothing about it. Again.

Spare me the stuff about injuries too and let’s be fair dinkum.

Cripps and Doch have gone backwards
Murph should be retired
Curnow is hanging on
Setters fail. O’Brien gone, Dow Probably also.
SPS seems gone

Walsh Harry weiters are literally our only shining lights, maybe Saad and TDK. That’s it. Oh and Eddie but he’s just about finished too in reality. How depressing.

[shawny]

How many times do i need to talk about your inability to comprehend English before you actually learn to read what i write?
That was the collingwood game you speak of.

Keep up mate.

True to form you avoid answering, find a loophole in someones post that dares to question you and then when you have no comeback you get personal. I did try very hard not to reply to you but your week to week rolling BS know it all just got the better of me.

I won’t do it again. ?

[capcom]

[member=54]shawny[/member] ... nicely summed up

[shawny]

I tend to agree

There is no spark. There’s no hunger to play to the death. We start well but then when things don’t go our way - we kick too many behinds or the oppo get a run on, it almost seems like you can see them say this is too hard and then just play it out and mid speed.

It’s bloody annoying to watch.

We will not win most of our next games, in fact I think we’ll capitulate badly because there’s really now nothing left to play for.  Those on contracts are on good $ and not up for renewal and those that are up for renewal well we’re still waiting on. How many times have I heard over the last 6-8 weeks that Cripps is as good as a done deal. Where’s the Farging signed contract then? Where’s McKays? He’s leadinf the Coleman and we’re still farting around.

This team just craps me. I used to love footy and would watch most games every weekend, couldn’t get enough of it and other games mattered because they’d matter to our chances and our place on the ladder.  But since they bought in Malthouse And barring that final against Richmond, it’s just been misery. My partner and I rarely watch other games now, our interest has gone snd we know sure as anything that when our season is in our hands, We frigging do nothing about it. Again.

Spare me the stuff about injuries too and let’s be fair dinkum.

Cripps and Doch have gone backwards
Murph should be retired
Curnow is hanging on
Setters fail. O’Brien gone, Dow Probably also.
SPS seems gone

Walsh Harry weiters are literally our only shining lights, maybe Saad and TDK. That’s it. Oh and Eddie but he’s just about finished too in reality. How depressing.

Your last paragraph is bloody depressing but worse
its brutally honest. Apart from who you mentioned the rest have question marks over them and can’t be relied upon to take us where we thought the rebuild would.
Htf after 6 years in a rebuild we only manage to add 1 real midfielder to the group we had 6 years ago is beyond comprehension. Whether we blame drafting stuff ups, lack of being able to develop, lack of getting any real ready made true bonifide mids in trade period I dunno. Still 1 midfielder in 6 years is a joke and imo the joint should be overhauled again from top to bottom
unless there is a clear explanation for that.

[kruddler]

True to form you avoid answering, find a loophole in someones post that dares to question you and then when you have no comeback you get personal. I did try very hard not to reply to you but your week to week rolling BS know it all just got the better of me.

I won’t do it again. ?

Your post had 1 question mark, thus 1 question.
I highlighted that, and answered it.

What do you think i am trying to avoid? Teaching you english? Yes, but here we are....

Again, your comprehension skills need some work.

You wanna ask a question of me, use one of those curly things with a little circle at the bottom of it.

[cookie2]

Your last paragraph is bloody depressing but worse
its brutally honest. Apart from who you mentioned the rest have question marks over them and can’t be relied upon to take us where we thought the rebuild would.
Htf after 6 years in a rebuild we only manage to add 1 real midfielder to the group we had 6 years ago is beyond comprehension. Whether we blame drafting stuff ups, lack of being able to develop, lack of getting any real ready made true bonifide mids in trade period I dunno. Still 1 midfielder in 6 years is a joke and imo the joint should be overhauled again from top to bottom
unless there is a clear explanation for that.

It would have to be a reflection of the fact that the people running our club are just not in touch with the true reality of our situation and are not capable of ever becoming so. As we all know, that will always get you in the end. Until that changes we will continue to flounder, or rearrange deck chairs or whatever it is we’re doing.

[flyboy77]

I was on the Teague Train - no longer.

Sure, his assistants on the whole are sub par.

But nothing has changed in recent weeks - terrible MC selections....poor match days moves (or none of note).

Let's be frank - half of out blokes look out of gas before half time!

The Club needs to bring some fresh blood (experienced) into the coaching ranks yesterday.

So much for the Woosha mentoring - we're playing worse now than for several years.

Something needs to give - if that's Teague I can live with it frankly.

Yesterday was ANOTHER totally unacceptable effort - by the MC before  the game and both players and coaching during the game.

We played a team, who are useless away from home, missing 6+ of their best (Kelly, Shuey, Allen, Guv, Kennedy, Veneables, Brander, Ah Chee etc) - and folded.

Without a whimper. Again.

[PaulP]

There's nothing a coach can do if your players can't execute basic skills. This has been an issue through several coaches. They can execute perfectly well at training, but instability, discontinuity and a losing culture have created headspace issues on game day that won't be overcome easily. Changing coaches won't make any difference.

[shawny]

I would love to know our results in last quarters this year especially in the last month.
As fly mentioned we look out of tickets well before the end of games and put captain is a huge concern. He’s unable to compete for any sort of prolonged period and spends a lot of time gasping for air even early in the contest and we are paying on the scoreboard for it as the opposition just run off him to easy. I know he’s not quick but I’m talking about even jogging wise the guy looks like he is labouring. Not a good look to have your captain looking like this.
Somethings up on that front.