CV and mad panic behaviour

[flyboy77]

https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview...ccine.html

Even though LP knows better....

[LP]

https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview...ccine.html

Even though LP knows better....

The naysayers and people crying wolf can't better the math, the numbers are overwhelmingly in the favour of vaccination, it's not even a contest anymore the debate is done and dusted. The naysayers lose massively.

The irony is the mass vaccination "is already the study" they say should have been done first, it is the mass trial phase and it's proven safe.

Almost a billion say hello, ........... the fat lady sings ................. crushing her opponents! ;D

[spf]

We should not be using hotels for quarantine. I know it was an emergency stop-gap but that time has well passed. These should have been under construction nearly 12 months ago.

[capcom]

Look at the thieving mongrels handed overly generous govt. contracts to police the quarantine and totally f***ed it up.  Hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Thryleon]

I heard an epidemiologist today state how crazy it is to suspend/cut any of the vaccines, at this stage in Europe vaccination rates have fallen by about 1 million per day, and COVID cases are now rising in many locations. He said it's expected that 10%(100K) of those 1 million now not getting vaccinated daily due to the cut will get COVID, and out of that shortfall group at least 5 will die and 3000 will get long COVID, while if they had vaccinated that 100K COVID cases none would get severe or long COVID, and only 1/2 a person per day gets a clotting issue.

30% of all COVID patients, on the full spectrum from asymptomatic to severe, will suffer from some form of clotting or low platelet count issue.

0.0005% of COVID vaccine recipients get a severe clot issue.

That is interesting based on the newest news. Today it's surfaced that the UK has an almost 50/50 strike rate for clotting from Adenovirus or mRNA vaccines. It's all been kept a bit quiet on the Moderna / Pfizer side of the debate, apparently Moderna(mRNA) has been under investigation in the US for several weeks and it's not been made public.

There is lots and lots of politics going on in all this.

[ElwoodBlues1]

GP gave me the ok, Mrs G2C and I booked in for next Tuesday.

I'm sure you will both be fine and I expect you to report for forum duty sore arm and all..   8)

[ElwoodBlues1]

lies, damned lies and statistics.

1 in 1000 present with adverse results according to the "studies".

Your link is pointing to 6.1 out of 1000....  thats a fair stuff up of calculation.  1 in 164 have an adverse reaction unless I misread the statistics...  Or maybe the 1 in 1000 is death not a bloodclot....

Then we wonder why people arent trusting blind advice.

Australia is the lucky country, being in Victoria though you are not as lucky as the other states, more CoVid fatalities and more reactions to the vaccine. I think the stats are always going to be reported in a non threatening type manner that doesnt alarm too many folk so I am skeptical in some areas.
As you know things that happen in Hospitals etc dont often make the stat sheet or the news....passing in a nursing home is common place so nobody bothers to delve too deep why, so those stats are skewed to natural causes, underlying issues etc. Way more Ambo callouts to mentally affected folk in lockdown than actual Covid ill patients but those stats wont feature or the end results of those callouts.

[Gointocarlton]

I'm sure you will both be fine and I expect you to report for forum duty sore arm and all..   8)

Change of plan EB, the GP rang me today and literally got an update from the health dept this morning recommending people in my situation have the Pfizer vaccine. Now the process of him lodging forms via Vicsis to get me an appt somewhere. Nothings bloody simple.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Change of plan EB, the GP rang me today and literally got an update from the health dept this morning recommending people in my situation have the Pfizer vaccine. Now the process of him lodging forms via Vicsis to get me an appt somewhere. Nothings bloody simple.

I know people on the forum say there is no difference between the vaccines but obviously as your case has shown there is depending on the situation. Just rocking up for the jab like a lot of people have done without first checking on what their own health situation is with your GP first is crazy IMO.
I dont want the AstraZ  and dont want to be railroaded into it either...the advertising in regards getting the jab has fallen short of what I would expect in terms of explaining that you should be advised by your GP what suits best not what suits the Governments hip pocket and political agendas.

[Gointocarlton]

I know people on the forum say there is no difference between the vaccines but obviously as your case has shown there is depending on the situation. Just rocking up for the jab like a lot of people have done without first checking on what their own health situation is with your GP first is crazy IMO.
I dont want the AstraZ  and dont want to be railroaded into it either...the advertising in regards getting the jab has fallen short of what I would expect in terms of explaining that you should be advised by your GP what suits best not what suits the Governments hip pocket and political agendas.

EB the TGA website link you put up was quite specific about who should not have AZ. I was unlucky enough to have one of those specific conditions.