Pre game discussions: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

[kruddler]

Kemp impressed because it was his first game.
Kemp did not impress enough to make his afl debut after 1 game regardless of his (lack of)  fitness.

Check your expectations.

[Thryleon]

Kemp impressed because his teamates were awful.

In a situation where you must make a change next week, he would be the first picked based on the 4 quarters I saw and you could play him as a sub.

[LP]

To me given his size Kemp looked light and lacked power needed to go head to head with bodies of equivalent size in AFL.

Was inconsistent but kicked the ball reasonably well though quite a few times, looks to be a nice ball user but VFL offers a lot more time and space than AFL.

Needs quite a few more VFL games before we make a call.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging him, he looks a very likely type that we should not rush. I'd love to see him build a few VFL games then get a VFL midfield rotation, to me this is his long term role.

[ElwoodBlues1]

To me given his size Kemp looked light and lacked power needed to go head to head with bodies of equivalent size in AFL.

Was inconsistent but kicked the ball reasonably well though quite a few times, looks to be a nice ball user but VFL offers a lot more time and space than AFL.

Needs quite a few more VFL games before we make a call.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging him, he looks a very likely type that we should not rush. I'd love to see him build a few VFL games then get a VFL midfield rotation, to me this is his long term role.

Agree, I thought he was a very good player the times I saw him at U18 level and the ideal swingman type that every club needs.
Against the Box Hill Hawks he looked thin, lacking in power to break tackles and was attempting to crash through packs like he could at u18 level where he often had a size advantage but was often getting caught in the game on the weekend.
I thought he did as well as could be expected but he isnt ready for senior footy and we have to be careful how he is managed.
Got no doubt he will make a very fine senior player but this season is about building his body and adjusting from the U18 comp to playing vs men and thats going to take time.
We saw Parks do ok early but when we ran into the heavyweight teams he looked like a SANFL player with only 15 games to his name and was badly exposed. Both he and Kemp need that body of work in the VFL to set themselves up for next season.

[PaulP]

Pretty sure this will be Walsh's 50th game.

[DJC]

Agree, I thought he was a very good player the times I saw him at U18 level and the ideal swingman type that every club needs.
Against the Box Hill Hawks he looked thin, lacking in power to break tackles and was attempting to crash through packs like he could at u18 level where he often had a size advantage but was often getting caught in the game on the weekend.
I thought he did as well as could be expected but he isnt ready for senior footy and we have to be careful how he is managed.
Got no doubt he will make a very fine senior player but this season is about building his body and adjusting from the U18 comp to playing vs men and thats going to take time.
We saw Parks do ok early but when we ran into the heavyweight teams he looked like a SANFL player with only 15 games to his name and was badly exposed. Both he and Kemp need that body of work in the VFL to set themselves up for next season.

I thought that Kemp showed a good step and the strength to dispose of the ball quite well when tackled but, you’re right, he needs VFL game time to prepare him for an AFL debut later in the season.

You’re right about Parks too.  He could be a regular in the 22 but he needs a lot of work in the VFL before he will be able to perform consistently at AFL level.  I think that relatively unknown players can get a couple of games’ grace before the opposition analysts work out how to exploit them.

That leaves us with two options to replace Plow; Casboult and Williamson, neither of whom would be first choice in an ideal world.  Seeing as we have plenty of run out of defence, I would go for Casboult with his ability to play at both ends of the ground and in the ruck.

Docherty has to stay on the wing - that’s one positional change that has paid off - and he couldn’t play Plow’s role.

I would bring Martin in for Gibbons and make Dow the sub.

[Gointocarlton]

Kemp seemed free to rotate and pivot on the knees with no impedement. No strapping either so it seems he is well and truly (fingers and toes crossed) over the injury. From the highlights that I saw, I liked what I saw, a lot. He hits targets repeatedly though which is a worry, that wont be tolerated at senior level so he needs to work on that.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I thought that Kemp showed a good step and the strength to dispose of the ball quite well when tackled but, you’re right, he needs VFL game time to prepare him for an AFL debut later in the season.

You’re right about Parks too.  He could be a regular in the 22 but he needs a lot of work in the VFL before he will be able to perform consistently at AFL level.  I think that relatively unknown players can get a couple of games’ grace before the opposition analysts work out how to exploit them.

That leaves us with two options to replace Plow; Casboult and Williamson, neither of whom would be first choice in an ideal world.  Seeing as we have plenty of run out of defence, I would go for Casboult with his ability to play at both ends of the ground and in the ruck.

Docherty has to stay on the wing - that’s one positional change that has paid off - and he couldn’t play Plow’s role.

I would bring Martin in for Gibbons and make Dow the sub.

Agree, I'd keep Docherty on the wing, he seemed comfortable as did Williams at half back.
Martin has to come back in, not sure about Dow vs the Swans who have a very close checking midfield, think I would run him in the twos and maybe look at playing him vs West Coast.
Swans have some decent size up in the front half and I agree that Casboult might be more handy although selectors dont often pick three rucks in the one team.

[Thryleon]

JSOS is my number 1 selection for the Plowman role.  I think he is possibly the best one to move back particularly if he is a chip off the old block. 

[LP]

Kemp seemed free to rotate and pivot on the knees with no impedement. No strapping either so it seems he is well and truly (fingers and toes crossed) over the injury. From the highlights that I saw, I liked what I saw, a lot. He hits targets repeatedly though which is a worry, that wont be tolerated at senior level so he needs to work on that.

[member=160]Gointocarlton[/member]  I heard Kemp was over the knee issues a long time back, it was some other injury which kept him out more recently.