Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

[LP]

I only saw a bit more than half the game - but from what i saw, i thought murphy looked composed and used it well, going into fwd 50.  considering this is one of our biggest concerns, then at least he is bringing something to the table.  i know his work the other way is terrible, but i think he is far from our biggest issue

Agreed, sMurph was fine 1st game back from injury, Cripps was fine this week as well. But some fans are still potting them across the board, the fans have "decided" and once they have "decided" it's over and the Fat Lady is singing.

Same applies to our coaches for that matter!

A nice example of this is fans have "decided" we should be playing Durdin and drafting Crocker, but in last week's VFL loss those two were basically missing for at least half the game. How does going missing for half a game at VFL level translate to AFL selection form?

[WASurfer]

Late to the party again! Tortured myself and watched the whole game yesterday and it really is just another week, but same result.

I too am getting frustrated watching Teague sit emotionless in the coaches box and trying nothing when things aren't working. Yes, injuries have restricted who we can have out there but a lack of depth in key areas has killed us again too.

Once again it's Walsh, McKay (who tried hard given how bad his shoulder looked), Curnow (been a warrior and doesn't stop), Weitering and Saad (the one bloke who CAN kick it properly) that keep us in games only to see their hard work completely undone by suburban footy standard skills, terrible decision making and what looked to be not a great deal of desire when we got behind.

Something has to give and I dare say a loss to Hawthorn this week might be the circuit breaker. But where do we go?

As someone else alluded to, some of the selections just boggle. SPS was one of the better players against Essendon after coming on as the medical sub in the first quarter and played in the position that suits him....the midfield. Then he's medical sub last week against the team with arguably the deepest midfield in the competition...and dropped altogether this week. Murphy comes in to take his spot.....a bloke probably in his final season and seemingly being gifted games to get to 300.

I was arguing for Setterfield to come back in but, EB as you suggested earlier in the week, the guy is a good VFL player at that level, but not up to this level. Took one big mark but did nothing else and shirks the contest when he needs to go in hard.

Williams should be embarrassed when he checks his bank account and sees his last pay go in. Now Teague is telling us he's playing without a lot of confidence????? Confident enough to sign up for 5 or 6 years on $900K and confident enough to swan around in bright pink boots.....but he sh#t himself backing into a marking contest in the second quarter yesterday and had a couple of easy tackles broken. He might've got 19 odd possessions but plenty of those were cheap ones that covered about 15m and even a couple of those didn't hit the mark. We've been torched by McGovern on big money deals and failing to deliver and now Williams has picked up the baton and running with it.

Plowman needs a stint in the VFL. How many more half back flankers do we need in the side?

Agree with others, Pittonet can't be blamed for any of this. He cracks in hard at least. He was brought to the club purely as backup for Kreuzer and a developing TDK but has basically been the number one ruckman since round 2 last year.

The fact that we only have two key defenders on the list shows how badly we've planned for the future.

[flyboy77]

Williams was a very good player before coming to us, now.....heaven help us.

Setterfield, even last year, was looking like he could take the next step or two into a B+/A grader.

He's taken a step alright - back to the VFL.

Gibbons and Newnes weren't giving enough and deserved the demotion (noting Gibbons played for Cuners).

Gibbons 9 touches - not good enough. Play a kid...if Kennedy's papers are stamped. Ramsay the most likely of the mids presently (Kemp and Philp sidelined).

Owies and Parks but had days they'd prefer to forget. Owies had 7 tackles all the same.

But bagels for Jones, Pars and Plowman. How does that work?

Need to persevere with Stocker in the middle....

SPS - still rate him highly but my God he looks almost disinterested.

Surely Nic Newman can give our lot some tips as to what the Swans 'do right'?!!!

[Lods]

Williams was a very good player before coming to us, now.....heaven help us.

Setterfield, even last year, was looking like he could take the next step or two into a B+/A grader.

He's taken a step alright - back to the VFL.

Gibbons and Newnes weren't giving enough and deserved the demotion (noting Gibbons played for Cuners).

Gibbons 9 touches - not good enough. Play a kid...if Kennedy's papers are stamped. Ramsay the most likely of the mids presently (Kemp and Philp sidelined).

Owies and Parks but had days they'd prefer to forget. Owies had 7 tackles all the same.

But bagels for Jones, Pars and Plowman. How does that work?

Need to persevere with Stocker in the middle....

SPS - still rate him highly but my God he looks almost disinterested.

Surely Nic Newman can give our lot some tips as to what the Swans 'do right'?!!!

Probably the concerning thing there is that some players, for whatever reason, aren't playing up to there 2020 level.

[Thryleon]

A positive in itself is that we have a lot of players seemingly down on form yet we are mic and matching it with almost everyone.

[WASurfer]

I think Owies is worth persisting with as the small forward. Eddie is in his last season and has been able to play up the ground a bit in recent weeks with Owies there. Owies goes in hard and looks to be a pretty reliable set shot. I doubt he's going to be a 20 possession type player but looks capable of kicking goals when he gets it.

Just read that Kemp is likely to play in the VFL this week. He'll be 4-5 weeks at least away but at 193cm, he could be just what we need down back. Parks has looked shaky in the last couple of weeks.

[capcom]

Eddie hasn't called it a day as yet ... and nor should he.  He stays imo

[LP]

Parks has looked shaky in the last couple of weeks.

I don't agree he's looked fine to me, what is expected from a 5th gamer?

[Raydan]

I don't agree he's looked fine to me, what is expected from a 5th gamer?

Seriously?

He was pushed off the ball with ease, his kicking is ordinary at best. He was bought into the side as an intercept marker, which apart from his first game, I haven't seen. Luke has done two memorable things, the tackle on Lukosius and the tackle on Tippa. Other than that he's been well below par.

[Gointocarlton]

Seriously?

He was pushed off the ball with ease, his kicking is ordinary at best. He was bought into the side as an intercept marker, which apart from his first game, I haven't seen. Luke has done two memorable things, the tackle on Lukosius and the tackle on Tippa. Other than that he's been well below par.

Lets see how he responds this week.