Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

[Milhanna13]

Just a quick one - I only saw bits and pieces of the game today (end of q1 thru to late in the 3rd).  Just looked at the stats and they say weeters didn’t take a mark?

Is that right?
When was the last time that happened?
Were melb just good at taking him out of the play?

[LoveNavy]

Re Williams
I too was critical of his underwhelming output.
Interesting Teague talked about sending down back where he's familiar, and can build his confidence. Here's hoping he can bounce back and develop quickly in the midfield.

Re Cripps
Teague's admission of poor, dishonest  Presser comments about Crippa's back injury was embarrassing IMO

[PaulP]

Just a quick one - I only saw bits and pieces of the game today (end of q1 thru to late in the 3rd).  Just looked at the stats and they say weeters didn’t take a mark?

Is that right?
When was the last time that happened?
Were melb just good at taking him out of the play?

That's right. No marks. Not sure when he last did that. I think Melbourne was pretty slick with their ball use, and i think this was one of our poorer performances for the season. Weitering competed hard, but he and many of our other boys were down today. The Dees took 14 marks inside 50 from 52 entries, which is pretty good going IMO.

[Lods]

More confirmation rather than learning anything new.

To me it confirmed that we are not that far away. Hear me out.

1. Dees are unbeaten this year, so losing to them is no shame
2. Dees defence has kept opposition sides to an average of 61 points for so far this season. We exceeded that, with Harry having 1 arm, injuries to probably 4 other starting forwards (Martin, Fisher, Curnow, Silvagni) and did so mainly in pouring rain.
3. We played poorly, but still only lost by less than 5 goals. We have a knack of doing this...staying in games. What happens when we get players back and start to click.
4. We are doing all of the above with Cripps being a liability. Previously its been solely because of Cripps.

So.....with all the negative about us, injuries, playing poorly etc etc....we simply will not die, will not go away. What happens when we shed some of that negativity? What happens when we can pick a side that we want to pick, not a side that is thrust upon us because of injuries.

We are 1 step away from winning ugly. Thats when teams rocket up the ladder. If you play poorly and win.

Agree with a lot of that but....
Today showed that while we might get players back in the coming weeks there is also a very good chance we'll lose some as well.
More of a chance if some of these 'niggly' injuries get worse because players attempt to play through them.

[Micky0]

Why are we injured so easily?

It’s so infuriating.

I love cripps but he gets caught HOTB way too often!

[Mantis]

Result did surprise me. I expected a bigger loss on the scoreboard. I remember that the Dees were due for a loss. Not this week. Next week against the Hawks is a bad situation for Teague. A win will prove nothing. A loss will highlight way too much. Wouldn’t want to be in his shoes. Somehow continuing to get closer to the bottom 4 is going to put the heat on the club very soon. Honourable losses only go so far. The media will turn the burners up another level if our squad don’t find that little extra soon. On that note we better not play the Hawks back into form. We will never hear the end of it.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Why are we injured so easily?

It’s so infuriating.

I love cripps but he gets caught HOTB way too often!

Agree...effort was there he just needs to get rid of the ball quicker mainly by hand, he had Oliver and Harmes rotating off him
and just seems to get slower as the game progresses.
He isnt right and he should have been rested, I hope we dont do the same with harry who had a taped shoulder in the Dogs game and seems to have injured himself during todays game.
The win might be important in the short term but you dont mess with your key players well being by playing them injured.

[Macca37]

I agree having a stable list helps, we dont have a settled lineup and are still mucking around organizing deckchairs rather than
game plans/style. eg Melb had 3-4 targets and we had one, injuries have robbed us of players and time to construct a team.
No use sacking coaches, we just need more time and luck with players and its going to be uncomfortable viewing for a while...

But we have been saying this for twenty years, and this year just adds to the misery.

Despite many first round picks we have an unbalanced list clogged with players just going through the motions - no passion and little ability.

Where are the forward coaches?  Again today, as in so many matches, it was a case of bombing the ball from the forward 50 metre arc.  It doesn't work but we keep doing it.

Just another wasted year with the Club producing the same old same old.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Just a quick one - I only saw bits and pieces of the game today (end of q1 thru to late in the 3rd).  Just looked at the stats and they say weeters didn’t take a mark?

Is that right?
When was the last time that happened?
Were melb just good at taking him out of the play?

Melbourne had four targets who could take a mark as well as Gawn hanging around at times down forward and
the game didnt lend itself to a lot of defensive marking and was more a day for spoiling and being conservative. I thought Weitering was ok today and seem to rotate between opponents.
Fritch was a nuisance being that inbetween size marking player and we looked a player short with Parks having an absolute shocker.

[dodge]

In some ways I would have preferred to lose by 10 goals.  That way some change of mindset at the selection table might take place.