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The 'opposition run on'
Why is it happening so often?
How do we stop it?
No doubt it's a topic of hot discussion amongst our coaching group.
They're struggling to find the answer.
There seems to be a couple of 'schools of thought' at a supporter level....
Some see us as 'very close'. We dominate games for long stretches. If we can just stop these constant periods where the opposition get a bit of run... we'll be there!
Other see us as still a 'fair way away'. A line up that's far from settled. To them it just seems the opposition have to press a button, go up a level, and we have no answer.
Is it a mental/attitude thing? (not coming ready to play, switching off when in a winning position)
Is it a personnel issue (players capable of the shutdown)
Is it a 'fitness issue'? (possibly, but many of these lapses occur in early parts of a game.)
Is it a leadership problem when these runs occur? (Who stands up?)
Is it a coaching issue (moves that don't occur, or don't work)?
(All of the above?)
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(05-10-2021, 06:58 AM)Lods link Wrote:The 'opposition run on'
Why is it happening so often?
How do we stop it?
No doubt it's a topic of hot discussion amongst our coaching group.
They're struggling to find the answer.
There seems to be a couple of 'schools of thought' at a supporter level....
Some see us as 'very close'. We dominate games for long stretches. If we can just stop these constant periods where the opposition get a bit of run... we'll be there!
Other see us as still a 'fair way away'. A line up that's far from settled. To them it just seems the opposition have to press a button, go up a level, and we have no answer.
Is it a mental/attitude thing? (not coming ready to play, switching off when in a winning position)
Is it a personnel issue (players capable of the shutdown)
Is it a 'fitness issue'? (possibly, but many of these lapses occur in early parts of a game.)
Is it a leadership problem when these runs occur? (Who stands up?)
Is it a coaching issue (moves that don't occur, or don't work)?
(All of the above?)
1. On-field leadership. Too much reliance on too few - too many passengers/lack of discipline.
2. Reactionary game day changes only.
3. Loser in-ground culture resulting from 20 + years of instability = zero killer instinct - fold under pressure/brittle confidence/not enough mongrel.
4. Injuries to key personnel / playing injured & poor performing blokes.
5. Is the game plan designed to suit the list (?) or are we trying to make blokes into things they're not - square peg, round hole syndrome.
Just some thought starters.
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It is a lack of self belief ( probably justified) within a group of players who know that when pressured they are not good enough mentally or skill wise to deal with quality opposition.
When added to a complete lack of leadership onfield when the pressure is applied and little or no help from the coaches' box, we have a perfect recipe for producing the disgraceful last quarter performance we had yesterday.
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Its all of the above, I think in this order:
Fitness/Mental - These two go hand in hand (Mens Sana in Corpore Sano), something not quite right it seems. We fall away physically and aren't competitive which lets teams in. I dont see us as having elite fitness, we look out on our feet at (the wrong) times. Healthy mind then leads to good decisions. we are poor decision makers (e.g Jones trying to mark instead of spoil and kill it).
Coaching - When the above starts to happen, the coaches need to make the right move or have a plan/tactic at the right time. The coach said they tried stuff and didn't work, did they?
Leadership - Onfield to drive the coaching move or game plan/tactic when needed. They need to see it before the coaches do almost. Forget Cripps, he is busy trying to win a Brownlow and be the hero. Doc should be doing much better in this regards given his coaching aspirations. This is the one we are poorest at it seems.
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You didn't list personnel but get the following in and things are different:
TDK (in place of Levi)
C Curnow (a fit one, in place of Cottrell)
Fisher (in place of Gibbons)
Martin (in place of Newnes)
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(05-10-2021, 07:33 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:You didn't list personnel but get the following in and things are different:
TDK (in place of Levi)
C Curnow (a fit one, in place of Cottrell)
Fisher (in place of Gibbons)
Martin (in place of Newnes)
I did mention personnel...but from a shut down/stopping point of view.
Who was looking after Bont in the last quarter. (probably needed two or three.)
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(05-10-2021, 07:52 AM)Lods link Wrote:I did mention personnel...but from a shut down/stopping point of view.
Who was looking after Bont in the last quarter. (probably needed two or three.)
Not sure anyone was solely responsible.
I made a comment that he was the only person we had to stop before the floodgates opened....in the 3rd.
Soon after he was taking intercept marks in D50, and linking up through the middle. Did it a couple times.
In the last he lifted another gear and was helping out down in defence, pushing forward hard and was obviously in the midfield too.
He went wherever he wanted to go, wherever he needed to go and we simply didn't have a good matchup for him.
I suspect we were trying to 'swap out' or 'handover' when he went deep one end or the other, and because he did it so often, he was often without an opponent nearby.
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(05-10-2021, 07:52 AM)Lods link Wrote:I did mention personnel...but from a shut down/stopping point of view.
Who was looking after Bont in the last quarter. (probably needed two or three.) I keep saying it but when you have Cripps in the middle his man is a free spirit and if its someone decent then you have real problems. The coach keeps backing Cripps in to win the day, get more ball, do more damage etc but the reality is he isnt doing any of that on a consistent basis and if its the Bont, Macrae, Treloar etc playing as his man they are going to carve us up.
From memory Ed had Treloar, Libba had Walsh which meant the Bont would have been the spare on Cripps...
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(05-10-2021, 08:31 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I keep saying it but when you have Cripps in the middle his man is a free spirit and if its someone decent then you have real problems. The coach keeps backing Cripps in to win the day, get more ball, do more damage etc but the reality is he isnt doing any of that on a consistent basis and if its the Bont, Macrae, Treloar etc playing as his man they are going to carve us up.
From memory Ed had Treloar, Libba had Walsh which meant the Bont would have been the spare on Cripps... We did well for three qtrs EB.
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