Harris at Odds over Contract Talks

[kruddler]

Are you saying there is no cap?

No. There is a very structured cap in AFLW.


AFLW player payments 2019-2022
Tier 2019 2020 2021 2022
1 $24,600 $29,856 $32,077 $37,155
2 $19,000 $23,059 $24,775 $28,697
3 $16,200 $19,661 $21,124 $24,468
4 $13,400 $16,263 $17,473 $20,239
Club TPP $474,800 $576,240 $619,109 $717,122

However, much like the mens game, there is money to be earned outside the cap. Remember Juddys Visy deal. He was earning 100k a year outside the cap for that....until Eddie McGuire complained and we had to include his finals year (or 2) in the cap. Reason for that was Judd was earning about 5-10 times more than any other player in the AFL outside the cap.

So the question is....how much are we allowed to pay Harris outside the salary cap. I have no idea what the allowances for that are for AFLW.

I suspect that it probably impossible for her to even earn 150k a year as an AFLW player.
Unless we get her a job at the club, ala Vescio and pay her plenty for that.
Unlike Vescio though, she doesn't really have any worthwhile skills

[Professer E]

Thanks,  and enjoy your boxing career Tayla.

[capcom]

I'd suggest she's already had one too many to the head.

[Gointocarlton]

I'd suggest she's already had one too many to the head.

This sounds to me like a case of another sports person being poorly managed/advised.

[kruddler]

Seems like Eddie McGuire backs up what I've been saying.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/womens-...8439941646

[LP]

Seems like Eddie McGuire backs up what I've been saying.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/womens-...8439941646

Regardless of the effect on AFLW and women's sport, Carlton is or at least should be about winning flags, and the potential effect on the team is significant.

McGuire's comments would be in respect of that, he knows it might be good for AFLW and potentially bad for Carlton.

If you want to lump AFLW in one big bag, then fair enough, but accept that some operating units might have to take a hit for the greater good and in this case Carlton.

On another note, I wouldn't be surprised if we or the AFL stump up the marketing cash Tayla stills wants to box. I believe the potential income is several times larger because the sponsorship deals for a world title are global not local.

[kruddler]

Regardless of the effect on AFLW and women's sport, Carlton is or at least should be about winning flags, and the potential effect on the team is significant.

McGuire's comments would be in respect of that, he knows it might be good for AFLW and potentially bad for Carlton.

For a new supply of tin foil?

McGuire is speaking purely from a marketing point of view. If we offered Harris to Collingwood, he'd be the first in line to drove her across. Tayla for us is still better than not having Tayla.

Plenty of team-mates have had their issues over the journey and still managed to play through it just fine.

[LP]

For a new supply of tin foil?

I can use the sheet covering your eyes if you let me borrow it!

Regardless, I probably would not have Tayla Harris on a football level in our top 5 for the last season, let alone in top spot but her manager is asking for top dollars.

Are they footballers, role models or fashion models?

If we pay Tayla big dollars are we just reinforcing the female stereotype, that tall blond, slender, gets the goodies! Why doesn't someone in the media ask her the question, and let's see how the response fits with her other messages?

[kruddler]

I can use the sheet covering your eyes if you let me borrow it!

Regardless, I probably would not have Tayla Harris on a football level in our top 5 for the last season, let alone in top spot but her manager is asking for top dollars.

Are they footballers, role models or fashion models?

If we pay Tayla big dollars are we just reinforcing the female stereotype, that tall blond, slender, gets the goodies! Why doesn't someone in the media ask her the question, and let's see how the response fits with her other messages?

I'd say it again in sign language but you wouldn't be able to see it.

Let me try it one more time....
It has nothing to do with her playing ability. That is capped, as it is for all players. I posted the table before. That is her max figure (if she was tier 1....and she's not)
As far as CSC votes went, she came in 17th i think.

Now on to why she should get the money. She is very marketable. She is as equally well known in the boxing world as the footy world. Non-football watchers see her and might get interested in the 'other' thing she does and have a look. They will see her playing for Carlton and thats their team from now on.
Her silhouette will IMO end up becoming the Footy Shows Jack Dyer, or the NBA's Jerry West etc.
She won young Victorian of the year.
She has a statue pushing for gender equality.
Our club is the league standard in gender equality, she is the poster child of that.

There are many many reason why she is beneficial to the club and the AFL as a whole.....and it is not based on her performance this year in the slightest.

Buddy Franklin was paid a squillion dollars to go to Sydney, you think that was all about his footballing ability? On the length of contract he was on? No, it was about marketing the club, and the game, in Sydney. Yes, they got some good years out of him, and now he is shot, but the marketing still remains.

If you think its simply because she is tall and blonde, then you are perpetuating the stereotype.


You think Chris Judd was really that focused on the environment and cardboard boxes? No, he wanted the coin. He was happy to be paraded around as the brand sponsor and give a few talks here and there to justify those dollars. But no, it was about increasing the brand of Visy, and earning some 'brand credits' in the process. Same with Tayla.

FWIW, if she put her mind to it, she could be the best forward to ever play the game, which is 1 reason you should try and keep her on the list.

[LP]

FWIW, if she put her mind to it, she could be the best forward to ever play the game, which is 1 reason you should try and keep her on the list.

True.

All the other examples you offered, Judd and Franklin, were already at the top when they got the big dollars, that is how it works performance before pay.

Promises are hollow, performance is real!