Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

[PaulP]

I saw many of those things mentioned in the first 4 games... and for large chunks of last season... and the season before... and the season before...

Here's your mate with some comments re all this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raEGQgG6840

Thanks, but I won't be watching that. If I want my daily dose of lazy, cherry picking shock jock, I have many better choices than him.

I put it to you, my learned colleague, that our issues are far more centred around skill execution, and far less around toughness, niceness, giving up chases, not remonstrating with opponents etc. Improve our general skills, kicking into F50, and the ball movement that leads to that, forward leading pattens, goal kicking and the like, and our position and W/L will improve.

[PaulP]

Take our score in the Port game and reverse the G/B. 14.9 instead of 9.14. Naturally the naysayers will say the scoreline flattered us etc., but I say that's only because we can't kick straight. It's not like they had twice the tackles, twice the I50's, twice the marks inside 50, half the turnovers etc. They were fast, clean and kicked straight, and we were the opposite.

[madbluboy]

Take our score in the Port game and reverse the G/B. 14.9 instead of 9.14. Naturally the naysayers will say the scoreline flattered us etc., but I say that's only because we can't kick straight. It's not like they had twice the tackles, twice the I50's, twice the marks inside 50, half the turnovers etc. They were fast, clean and kicked straight, and we were the opposite.

We are the easiest side to play against because of our lack of pressure.

[cookie2]

So who should we bring in to be leader of the playing group.? A golden opportunity for some hard nosed uncompromising bastard.

[tonyo]

Mark Maclure has come a long way since the 70's-80s.  I can remember when the Carlton mob under the Press Box (before it was torn down) used to call him 'Concrete Head'.

But what he says is spot on.  He played in Carlton sides that always turned up and never shirked an issue.

Can't say I've consistently seen it from the current crop - although I have seen enough to say they are capable of it (which makes it even more galling when they play like teddy bears).

I'm not at all sure what the scoreboard will say against Brisbane, but it better not be for want of effort!

[ElwoodBlues1]

Give me a bunch of ratbags and you can build a team, we have a bunch of nice guys, the coach is a nice guy......
Its not the coaches fault its the players...so Teague stays and some players go...integrity of selection is horrible.
Some Players are non competitive, soft and poorly skilled and thats the bottom line from Sellars.
Those players have to go...and guess what MaClure is right, Teague stays and some players have to go including his mates and he has to get a lot tougher or he will be next.

[ElwoodBlues1]

We are the easiest side to play against because of our lack of pressure.

Spot on.....Pressure vs Soft and Lazy
How can you expect to be a pressure team when players wont chase, tackle and shirk contests.
You add poor skills when we do have the ball and under pressure those skills become horrible...thats us

[PaulP]

We are the easiest side to play against because of our lack of pressure.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this has been your opinion for about 10 years ?

[Macca37]

Thanks, but I won't be watching that. If I want my daily dose of lazy, cherry picking shock jock, I have many better choices than him.

I put it to you, my learned colleague, that our issues are far more centred around skill execution, and far less around toughness, niceness, giving up chases, not remonstrating with opponents etc. Improve our general skills, kicking into F50, and the ball movement that leads to that, forward leading pattens, goal kicking and the like, and our position and W/L will improve.

Take the time to watch McClure.  You obviously do not like him but I doubt you would find much to criticise.

With regard to skill execution, we lag far behind opposition clubs because (a) we specialise in recruiting players with poor skills, and (b) we make no effort to improve what limited ability they have.

It has been that way for years and our solution seems to be to change the coach every few years.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Take the time to watch McClure.  You obviously do not like him but I doubt you would find much to criticise.

With regard to skill execution, we lag far behind opposition clubs because (a) we specialise in recruiting players with poor skills, and (b) we make no effort to improve what limited ability they have.

It has been that way for years and our solution seems to be to change the coach every few years.

The other problem is some of the other players with good skills dont like the hard stuff, we dont have enough players
with both the skills and the intensity to do the hard stuff to win a game.
Players like Walsh and Saad standout like Dogs balls because they give you both requirements, Williams if he can get fit is probably another. You look at Richmond and its hard to find a non competitive player with poor skills.