Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide

[laj]

In 33 games under Teague we have lost by over 5 goals only twice, one a regular "cue in the rack round" 22 game. If we were actually hungry and properly motivated on a regular basis we'd actually do pretty well. Makes it more frustrating.

[Blues15]

Koutas son kicked 11 goals playing for his local footy club. Father son mid season draft I wouldn’t be mad haha  maybe if we stopped stuffing up sitters infront of the goals we might win these games

[townsendcalling]

We seem to have a distinct desire NOT to employ former senior coaches to assist our 'apprentice' coach, just in case they start looking over their shoulder!! 
Goodwin was told that Alan Richardson would be sitting in the box with him, then he was told that 'the forgotten man' (too old, don't touch him) Mark Williams would come in to improve their kicking and toughen them up around the ball. Melbourne were as soft as us............now look at them!!
Horse Longmire was happy to take on board the intel that Don Pike could provide, while Stewie Dew saw value is getting the football brain of Rhyce  Shaw onto his team!!
We keep persisting with Barker, Bruce, Amos and Stanton!!
Give Ross Lyon a 9 month contract to come in and help Teague tell a few players a few home truths (I'm sure Choco does!!)  Lyon has enough to do and seems comfortable 'out of the cut and thrust of coaching', but would probably enjoy a bit of 'club land' interaction. 
For Teague, it may very well prolong his coaching career rather than shorten it!!!

[townsendcalling]

Koutas son kicked 11 goals playing for his local footy club. Father son mid season draft I wouldn’t be mad haha  maybe if we stopped stuffing up sitters infront of the goals we might win these games

Who Lukas or Jamie???

[capcom]

In 33 games under Teague we have lost by over 5 goals only twice, one a regular "cue in the rack round" 22 game. If we were actually hungry and properly motivated on a regular basis we'd actually do pretty well. Makes it more frustrating.

But is that something to write home about Jim given we got a fair few junk goals in games against sides who'd already done their work and established their lead?  Time for some real home truths.  Let's see the Brisbane game unfold. 

[WASurfer]

Another one of those 20-30 point losses but in reality, Port were a 10 goal better side and the margin flattered us. We were competitive in the first quarter but how many times did we miss a sitter for them to just waltz it done the other end at ease and kick a goal...I can remember at least 4. At times it looked like they had 3 or 4 extra players out there...that's how poor our defence and manning up was.

Docherty is a shadow of the AA player he was. I think Jones had about half a dozen kicks and pretty much picked out an opposition player with every one of them. I had hopes for Williamson when he strung some games together late last year but he's not up to scratch and would already be behind Parks in the pecking order. He continually tries to do more than his skill set would allow and is so one sided it's laughable. It can't happen but what would we give for some steadiness like Kade Simpson off a half back flank at the moment?

And don't get me started on SPS! Barely gets out of first gear, doesn't chase, doesn't put his body on the line and doesn't even look like he wants to be out there.

Agree on the earlier comments re McGovern....play him down back while Parks is out injured.

And for mine, no coincidence that Silvagni goes out and the pressure work off the ball and the desire for the footy drops away...if fit, he's one of the first blokes I'd pick each week. Similarly, Cottrell and Pittonet might not be in the same class as some of their higher paid team mates but you know what you'll get each week....a 100% contest.

It's hard to see where the improvement comes from to be honest. Yes injuries don't help but I can't see how our skills have improved over the last 5 years under either Teague or Bolton. We're absolutely kidding if we see ourselves as a top 8 team! We are no closer than in previous years and likely be making up the bottom 6 again.

[crashlander]

Most of the things I wanted to post have already been said in one way or another, but I will put on my 2 cents worth. I am not as angry as I was, so I will probably sound saner.

[1] We won’t really be a contender until we play a brand of football closer to that of Richmond or Port Adelaide. We do not show the desire, the overlying will to get the ball that allows those teams to make tackles and smothers. We do not attack the ball or our opponents enough.
It isn’t a matter of speed, although we looked slow against Port, it is that they moved flat out, while too many of our guys give up far too soon.
It isn’t case where adding a couple of players will make the difference, or, for that matter, just changing the coach. It is something that has to be a part of everyone, the belief in themselves, the will to get the ball against the odds, the willingness to make body contact and make opponents suffer for getting to the ball first.

[2] Our skills are not good enough. Simple as that.
This is an area where the players and coaches do have a fair bit to answer for. We were going around 61%, Port were going around 80%. We need to go around 80%; most of the better teams do.
Now there is a confidence issue here, especially with guys like Levi Casboult, who has improved so much, but is still not the kick you can depend on. We do have a number of players who are similar, and lack faith in their disposal.
However, what do you do it? Practice, training from a brilliant kick, for starters.
It is simply unprofessional that Patrick Cripps constantly misses set shots from 30 m out or less, and he isn’t alone.
Harry McKay may be only young, but with 4 years in the program he should have a set routine for shots at goal for any distance. I don’t care if he kicks around a corner, but he has no know that any shot is more likely to go in than not.
We have had kicking coaches. Certainly, Levi has improved a lot with one. But we need one to rate all of the side’s disposal efficiency and get one or two people in to improve it.
Our coaches need to work on disposing of the ball well under pressure.
Otherwise, we will still loose.

[3] Recruiting:
We do appear to be making some progress in this area, as the rank incompetence of the Hughes - Rogers Era appears to have gone. Silvagni was good at making deals and had a much better eye than his predecessors, but he still missed out badly when we picked Dow and O’Brien.
Austin is going OK so far, but we still don’t have the elite players wanting to come to us.
We need to make sure our recruits have good skills, before anything else. Good kicking covers a lot of other sins.
Our game plan on the weekend was to chip the ball short. However, we don’t have the kicking skills to make it work. Too many times we turned the ball over because the 3rd short kick was too high, or too long, or too short. Even Murphy did this, and he is quite a reasonable kick.
Then want players who have high emotional intelligence, so they don’t panic under pressure. H, for example, makes some silly mistakes because he panics and doesn’t want to have set shots. Nor is her alone. Many of our players look to share the ball when they are within kicking distance. Sometimes that is good team football, but sometimes you just need to take the responsibility and do the job yourself!

[4] Development:
We do seem to be improving in this area, but if you look at some of our competitors, they manage to get kids playing good senior football from the get-go. Other than Cripps and Walsh, that hasn’t been the case with us. We really need for our kids to develop into what we want before they are 30.

[5] Picking physically unbreakable players:
We haven’t had a full list available in any game since the mid 1990’s, and even then, we didn’t do it very often. We have taken one step there in our recruitment of a top fitness/rehab man as out High-Performance manager. Fine.
We also have links with LaTrobe Uni on the sports’ science side of thing. Also, a good move.
But we tend to recruit people who break easily. What is wrong with recruiting people who don’t break easily?
Taking the occasional risk with a player who has had an injury is one thing, taking a guy who is always injured is a serious error. For example, Marchbank. He is a fine player, but he is one who can’t get on the park. Why did we spend so much to get him?

[laj]

But is that something to write home about Jim given we got a fair few junk goals in games against sides who'd already done their work and established their lead?  Time for some real home truths.  Let's see the Brisbane game unfold.

We can argue the semantics but that's the facts, we are competitive. What I am saying is we should be winning alot more but we are simply not hungry enough and it's frustrating. Only a couple of times we found ourselves 40+ at 3/4 time if you want to eliminate the junk time issue, one being Saturday (quite a few times in the 2nd qtr before fighting back and sometimes even winning). Even then we stayed in some touch for a long time playing as badly as we were. We can do alot better and should be. We are a waste of talent.

[flyboy77]

Who Lukas or Jamie???

Lukas.

[laj]

Another one of those 20-30 point losses but in reality, Port were a 10 goal better side and the margin flattered us. We were competitive in the first quarter but how many times did we miss a sitter for them to just waltz it done the other end at ease and kick a goal...I can remember at least 4. At times it looked like they had 3 or 4 extra players out there...that's how poor our defence and manning up was.

Docherty is a shadow of the AA player he was. I think Jones had about half a dozen kicks and pretty much picked out an opposition player with every one of them. I had hopes for Williamson when he strung some games together late last year but he's not up to scratch and would already be behind Parks in the pecking order. He continually tries to do more than his skill set would allow and is so one sided it's laughable. It can't happen but what would we give for some steadiness like Kade Simpson off a half back flank at the moment?

And don't get me started on SPS! Barely gets out of first gear, doesn't chase, doesn't put his body on the line and doesn't even look like he wants to be out there.

Agree on the earlier comments re McGovern....play him down back while Parks is out injured.

And for mine, no coincidence that Silvagni goes out and the pressure work off the ball and the desire for the footy drops away...if fit, he's one of the first blokes I'd pick each week. Similarly, Cottrell and Pittonet might not be in the same class as some of their higher paid team mates but you know what you'll get each week....a 100% contest.

It's hard to see where the improvement comes from to be honest. Yes injuries don't help but I can't see how our skills have improved over the last 5 years under either Teague or Bolton. We're absolutely kidding if we see ourselves as a top 8 team! We are no closer than in previous years and likely be making up the bottom 6 again.

Improvement would be instant if we were motivated enough on a consistent basis. We don't want it badly enough hence don't work hard enough. Look at games where we are really switched on. There's run, spread and suddenly the skills are way better. We are are top 8 team and better if we badly "want" to be. There's the issue and it's frustrating. Even on bad days, which is alot of them, we don't take thrashings on the scoreboard and always "in" games mostly. Currently, right now, we are a waste of ability.