CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

5 new cases in Hotel Quarantine today.
Re the AZ vaccine, whilst there may well be a link between clots and the vaccine, it can still be effective at preventing Covid can it not?.

Case numbers somehow became the yardstick for how we were tracking with covid.

The problem i see is that the real question needing to be asked with respect to cases and vaccinations is that the main data required is people admitted to hospital as a covid patient vs how many are not admitted at all.

The covid reporting has been very imbalanced making it difficult to draw some good conclusions about it.

[capcom]

... and if anyone here is aware in their extended circle of family and friends, someone who is diabetic, they should be careful with the jab unless their blood glucose levels are in a very good place.

[LP]

The covid reporting has been very imbalanced making it difficult to draw some good conclusions about it.

Yes, they should stop telling us how many are dead, nearly 3 Million now, and more about how many have long long term symptoms that are managed as outpatients.

Do we really want to know? :o

[LP]

... and if anyone here is aware in their extended circle of family and friends, someone who is diabetic, they should be careful with the jab unless their blood glucose levels are in a very good place.

That might just be correlation, official findings are needed.

There are two other conditions that also look to correlate, being a young female and on the pill, and having a history of blood thinners. But in fairness to the vaccines it looks on cursory inspection like the pill and COVID-19 are also a more deadly duo, particularly if you are on the pill for reasons other than avoiding pregnancy.

Secondly, it looks like unwittingly some doctors might have contributed to the demise of some patients by issuing blood thinners as a treatment for the clots, the wrong type can make the situation much much worse having a paradoxical effect. Apparently this is a known known and can be managed once a patients history is know, but that of course won't catch 100% of cases.

[Gointocarlton]

Case numbers somehow became the yardstick for how we were tracking with covid.

The problem i see is that the real question needing to be asked with respect to cases and vaccinations is that the main data required is people admitted to hospital as a covid patient vs how many are not admitted at all.

The covid reporting has been very imbalanced making it difficult to draw some good conclusions about it.

All I was suggesting was that the minute they allowed people from OS in, they came bearing a gift.

[LP]

All I was suggesting was that the minute they allowed people from OS in, they came bearing a gift.

It's sort of only applicable once / while we are COVID free which won't be forever, sooner or later there will be domestic transmission, it's only a matter of time.

The full reservoir for COVID is not known, but it's already here to stay!

One problem we have with COVID is that the health process is bias in that it preferentially picks up harmful mutagens, there could be dozens of virulent but harmless mutagens circulating, and it won't be until one mutates to something quite harmful that we will know about it. It's completely wrong for some to claim COVID will mutate into something safe, because it doesn't stay that way, it keeps mutating.

[LP]

Interesting Pfizer now hinting you need a 3rd or ongoing doses for their mRNA vaccine to keep you protected.

Got shares $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$?

[cookie2]

There are now hints beginning to circulate that an annual jab will possibly be necessary.

[kruddler]

There are now hints beginning to circulate that an annual jab will possibly be necessary.

Just like the flu.

Constantly mutating, constantly need to get the latest 'software update'.

[LP]

Just like the flu.

Constantly mutating, constantly need to get the latest 'software update'.

I suspect you'll find J&J and AstraZeneca will modify their stuff and we will be back into it, if not the cost of inoculating the planet will rise 2x to 10x on par with the proposed remedies for treating an infection.

The range of costs seems quite wide;
Bulk Estimates dependant on location:
$30-$50 per person (Adenovirus)
$90 - $150 per person (mRNA)
$600 - $1500 per person (moAB)

We need lots of bulk options to keep the bastards honest$

Either way, we need to realise this isn't going away anytime soon, so there is no point delaying the need to look at different ways for getting on with life.