Two things after Round 2

[Thryleon]

Last 20 years
        Premierships   No Of Coaches
Haw 4                      2
Rich 3                      4
Geel 3                      2
Bris 3                      4                     
WC 2                      3
Syd 2                      3
PA 1                      4
WB 1                      5
Coll 1                      2

Ade 0                      6
Car 0                      6
Ess 0                      6
Freo 0                      5
GC 0                      4
GWS 0                      2
Melb 0                      5
NM 0                      5
StK 0                      6

Wow its more telling than I thought.

[Thryleon]

A couple of those clubs have stuck with their coaches through a rough period and come out the other side.
If you're a successful club you won't go through coaches at a great rate.
If you're an unsuccessful club the changes will occur more often.

Are clubs successful because they stick with a coach or is it because they're successful they don't swing the changes so often?
It's a bit of a 'chicken and egg' argument.

Theres definitely an element of both but a bog ordinary side well drilled will always look better than a talented side that aren't well drilled (gws as reference point).

[townsendcalling]

1.  Curnow either heavy tags or he’s out.
2.  Play Setterfield in the guts or he is out. He’s not a wingman!!

[Baggers]

Last 20 years
        Premierships   No Of Coaches
Haw 4                      2
Rich 3                      4
Geel 3                      2
Bris 3                      4                     
WC 2                      3
Syd 2                      3
PA 1                      4
WB 1                      5
Coll 1                      2

Ade 0                      6
Car 0                      6
Ess 0                      6
Freo 0                      5
GC 0                      4
GWS 0                      2
Melb 0                      5
NM 0                      5
StK 0                      6

Pretty interesting stuff, to say the least. Good research, GTC Old Son.

Be interesting to break down these figures even further into, Years As Finalist... Number of Coaches.

Adelaide could have won a premiership and lost a coach through tragic circumstances... a coach who'd probably still be there if not for that.

Constancy sure does help continuity and building cohesion/culture. But we've had the same assistant coaches for years now and I notice clubs with the same senior coach for an extended period regularly 'refresh' the assistant coach ranks.

It took 6 goes, but I suspect the Aints have found their man. I watched the short video on the AFL website featuring Ratts... really interesting stuff re player feedback and Ratts' approach and approachability. He's learned much over his journey and already had a good base to build upon, in regard to his understanding of the game and a natural high strategic intelligence.

[Gointocarlton]

1.  Curnow either heavy tags or he’s out.
2.  Play Setterfield in the guts or he is out. He’s not a wingman!!

Both out of form and should be dropped this week.

[Gointocarlton]

Pretty interesting stuff, to say the least. Good research, GTC Old Son.

Be interesting to break down these figures even further into, Years As Finalist... Number of Coaches.

Adelaide could have won a premiership and lost a coach through tragic circumstances... a coach who'd probably still be there if not for that.

Constancy sure does help continuity and building cohesion/culture. But we've had the same assistant coaches for years now and I notice clubs with the same senior coach for an extended period regularly 'refresh' the assistant coach ranks.

It took 6 goes, but I suspect the Aints have found their man. I watched the short video on the AFL website featuring Ratts... really interesting stuff re player feedback and Ratts' approach and approachability. He's learned much over his journey and already had a good base to build upon, in regard to his understanding of the game and a natural high strategic intelligence.

Ratts = Successful Clarkson Factory
Teague = Broken Adelaide Factory
Any wonder they have passed us so fast we have wind burn, well played Blues.

[Gointocarlton]

Pretty interesting stuff, to say the least. Good research, GTC Old Son.

Be interesting to break down these figures even further into, Years As Finalist... Number of Coaches.

Adelaide could have won a premiership and lost a coach through tragic circumstances... a coach who'd probably still be there if not for that.

Constancy sure does help continuity and building cohesion/culture. But we've had the same assistant coaches for years now and I notice clubs with the same senior coach for an extended period regularly 'refresh' the assistant coach ranks.

It took 6 goes, but I suspect the Aints have found their man. I watched the short video on the AFL website featuring Ratts... really interesting stuff re player feedback and Ratts' approach and approachability. He's learned much over his journey and already had a good base to build upon, in regard to his understanding of the game and a natural high strategic intelligence.

Your wish is my command Baggers
Last 20 years
          Premierships    No Of Coaches.  Years As FInalist
Haw  4                        2                                11
Rich  3                        4                                8
Geel  3                        2                                15
Bris      3                        4                                7
WC      2                        3                                14
Syd      2                        3                                16
PA      1                        4                                10
WB      1                        5                                8
Coll      1                        2                                13
     
Ade      0                        6                                12
Car      0                        6                                5
Ess      0                        6                                9
Freo  0                        5                                7
GC      0                        4                                0
GWS  0                        2                                4
Melb  0                        5                                5
NM      0                        5                                8
StK      0                        6                                8

[shawny]

Have seen enough of LOB and Dow to put a line through them. Would take a massive turnaround for those 2 to turn into the sort of player we thought we would when we selected them which is a massive fail.

Kennedy and Cunningham are on their last chance and while i rate Cunningham as a player with the tools to make it but he just doesn’t want it enough and will likely fall on this own sword come years end.

Williamson, Cottrell, Setterfield, marchbank and McGovern haven’t lived up to expectations either and while I’m willing to give them more time I would be surprised if they made it into the players we thought they will.

Add in last seasons/likely departures of casboult, Murphy and Betts and again we seem to be having to make way too many forced changes at years end considering where our list should be! 

[Baggers]

Your wish is my command Baggers  )  )  ) You're a bloody ripper, GTC, a bloody ripper, good friend... )  )  )
Last 20 years
          Premierships    No Of Coaches.  Years As FInalist
Haw  4                        2                                11
Rich  3                        4                                8
Geel  3                        2                                15
Bris      3                        4                                7
WC      2                        3                                14
Syd      2                        3                                16
PA      1                        4                                10
WB      1                        5                                8
Coll      1                        2                                13
     
Ade      0                        6                                12
Car      0                        6                                5
Ess      0                        6                                9
Freo  0                        5                                7
GC      0                        4                                0
GWS  0                        2                                4
Melb  0                        5                                5
NM      0                        5                                8
StK      0                        6                                8

[Baggers]

Looks at the Premiership returns % for years as a finalist for:
Dawks
Pussycats
Brisvegas &
Tiggers... All pretty darn impressive.

But then look at the Premiership % returns for years as a finalist for:
Adelaide, Rottingwood & cheats.com.au  :o  :o

Then check out the cultures, particularly at the Dawks, Pussycats and Tiggers! (Brisvegas got an almighty leg up from the AFL).