Post Game Passion: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

[laj]

The problem probably is that there's not enough room in the 'player's best positions' to fit them all into those spots.

Have to think about leaving some out then. It's like your 6 best bats being openers then trying to slot them from 1 to 6. Doesn't work that well.

[Gointocarlton]

My two cents:
We lost the game in the coaches box. I noticed (watching from home) that Pies players played on at every chance. This made our players look flat footed and our coaching panel had not answer for this. Nothing nothing at all.
In the 3rd the Pies stopped playing on and we got ourselves into the game.

A lot did go the Pies way,
when talk of Cox as a footy player is mentioned on this board, then we know things are going well for them
Jones slaps the ball out of a pack and the ball lands to De Goey. How do you defend that?? See just kept ging their way.

I think players are also being played out of position:
SPS is NOT a backman
Setterfield is NOT a wingman.
Murphy is NOT a small forward

I can keep going but worst of all I rejoined as a member today. Does that make sense

I said after the StK praccy game quick sides would trouble us. Adams, Daicos, Brown and couple of other toweled us up and made us look silly.

[ElwoodBlues1]

According to the AFL website, the one percenters went our way 60/43.

That would be Walsh getting 59 and the rest of the team one.......I'd like to see those in isolation and draw my own conclusions and
my idea of a 1% er is probably different.
We were soft vs Richmond and same vs Collingwood

[laj]

Will to win and willingness to the body on the line and take a hit for the team, too many blokes wanting the easy kick and refusing
to do the 1%ers. You have old blokes in Pendlebury and Sidebottom on the deck fighting for the ball and our young blokes watching waiting for the likes of Walsh to get it to them.
About 5 players need dropping so they get with the program....

Yes, playing culture is the next thing. We need to weed out those that don't have that passion to win at all costs, rather than at their choosing, and put them in the twos. A highly committed Carlton can beat anyone. Sadly we aren't that highly committed anywhere near as often as we should be.

[PaulP]

That would be Walsh getting 59 and the rest of the team one.......I'd like to see those in isolation and draw my own conclusions and
my idea of a 1% er is probably different.
We were soft vs Richmond and same vs Collingwood

Walsh had 3 1%ers. Weitering had 16, Docherty 8, Jones and Pittonet 4 each.

[LP]

That would be Walsh getting 59 and the rest of the team one.......I'd like to see those in isolation and draw my own conclusions and
my idea of a 1% er is probably different.
We were soft vs Richmond and same vs Collingwood

I didn't see us lay a single offensive shepherd, not one block, not one uSecond of delay on a Filth opponent.

I'm not even sure you can do that by accident!

[ElwoodBlues1]

Yes, playing culture is the next thing. We need to weed out those that don't have that passion to win at all costs, rather than at their choosing, and put them in the twos. A highly committed Carlton can beat anyone. Sadly we aren't that highly committed anywhere near as often as we should be.

Yep, I think Teague has to set the bar this week and include some players who want it more and can inspire with an act of play and encourage others to do the same. We are lucky we play a banged up Freo with injuries to their key backs and nemesis players like Walters injured but I wouldnt let some players think they can perform vs a weak Freo and that will guarantee games to them.
I'd be bringing in the likes of Cottrell, Stocker and Kennedy and keeping them in so the other slackers learn in the twos whats required. Cotchin played in a lazy way cheating on his mates till he got told to shape up and thats how I'd be playing it with selection and expectation for our list at well.
As you suggested its probably time to return a few players to their original positions and motivate them to grasp the opportunity or learn how to in the twos.

[PaulP]

I didn't see us lay a single offensive shepherd, not one block, not one uSecond of delay on a Filth opponent.

I'm not even sure you can do that by accident!

If you look at another statistical category, "pressure acts", Fogarty had 22, then Walsh 21. I can't find any definitions anywhere.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Walsh had 3 1%ers. Weitering had 16, Docherty 8, Jones and Pittonet 4 each.

Three backline players, and a badly beaten ruckman....nothing of note around the ground apart from Walsh
No forwards performing 1%ers either...
Fogarty was good and has already shown a few of his teammates how to tackle and chase in his short time at the club.

[PaulP]

Three backline players, and a badly beaten ruckman....nothing of note around the ground apart from Walsh
No forwards performing 1%ers either...
Fogarty was good and has already shown a few of his teammates how to tackle and chase in his short time at the club.

The breakdown for the 1%ers is similar for the Pies. Backmen near the top, mids further down. The breakdown for the pressure acts is also similar across the two teams.