Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 2: Carlton vs Collingwood

[capcom]

3 changes I reckon. 
Out:  LOB, SPS and Jack 
In: Williams, Martin and Oscar. If Martin is not ready I would play Stocker.

I would give Dow another week. He preseason form was promising and needs to be given every chance to prove he can play at this level. Lob made some howling errors that cost us so even though it was a tough game to promote him in he should be dropped imo.
Can’t possibly continue to gift SPS games anymore. Stuff him. Needs a massive rocket this bloke. He either pulls his finger out and gives 100% defensively or he can play 2s and go back to riding bulls in WA next year cause doubt anyone will want him.

Massive massive game this one. No excuses if we are going to make the move we all said we should be this is a must win game.

Exactly the team I'd select along with the Martin / Stocker switch.

[kruddler]

He has great endurance and has a weapon of a left foot but doesn't use either enough. He needs it drummed into him to take the game on and use those weapons at every opportunity. He needs game after game in the top flight league to learn how to use them. Go for broke, play him every week and get the confidence up and he could flourish. Just my opinion.

So as i thought, play him for playing hims sake, rather than earning it.

Look, i get that you need to do that from time to time, but i think we are just about at the point where we need to play players who deserve it and force players to knock the door down.

[shawny]

So as i thought, play him for playing hims sake, rather than earning it.

Look, i get that you need to do that from time to time, but i think we are just about at the point where we need to play players who deserve it and force players to knock the door down.

Agree but issue having the depth where you have blokes knocking down the door. 

You don’t want to be gifting games but also need to give blokes a decent block to build some confidence and then you know exactly where they sit.
I would love to give stocker a block of games. From what I have seen from him he has a bigger body then most his age, was strong over the ball and was confident with his disposal.
Give him 5 or 6 games and let’s see what he has. Also very keen to see Kemp later in year.

[Gointocarlton]

So as i thought, play him for playing hims sake, rather than earning it.

Look, i get that you need to do that from time to time, but i think we are just about at the point where we need to play players who deserve it and force players to knock the door down.

Mate its round 1 and there have been no reserves games to gauge form, just PS games and training. He must have earnt a spot ahead of others based on pre season training standards and attributes he has that they want to use/exploit. All Im saying is give him a decent run at it then at some point, if he has cut the mustard, see ya later. He was great last night but shows glimpses of what he has. If its in one a row form that's the benchmark? Fine cut him loose.

[capcom]

On what I've seen tonight, we should have Collingwood's measure.

[cookie2]

On what I've seen tonight, we should have Collingwood's measure.

I think we'll be in with a big show if we come out with the right attitude.

[ElwoodBlues1]

On what I've seen tonight, we should have Collingwood's measure.

Agree, with DeGoey playing midfield to cover for Treloar they dont have many avenues to goal other than Mihocek who is more of a workhorse than a heavy goal kicker. Saying all that they might get Sidebottom back and that will make them more dangerous.
Very important game for club and the coach next week IMO, another loss and the knives will be out..we should prevail though and I'd expect a 3-4 goal win...

[kruddler]

Mate its round 1 and there have been no reserves games to gauge form, just PS games and training. He must have earnt a spot ahead of others based on pre season training standards and attributes he has that they want to use/exploit. All Im saying is give him a decent run at it then at some point, if he has cut the mustard, see ya later. He was great last night but shows glimpses of what he has. If its in one a row form that's the benchmark? Fine cut him loose.

I understand the logic of a block of games, it is a legitimate call. He must be the best trainer at the club though because his preseason form was as bad as his form against the tigers.
But sure pick him for that if you want.

But....looking at the bests from the vfl, and knowing Jack is injured...some changes should be made and I'm not sure we can justify keeping him in....it could cost us a chance at winning....which is unacceptable imo. Pick him as the sub, maybe.

[Gointocarlton]

On what I've seen tonight, we should have Collingwood's measure.

Yes we SHOULD, like us they will be like a wounded animal. I like how English and Martin worked Grundy over, he will ne a tired boy today, will Levi and Pitto be able to continue the tirade? Our defenders have a different fwd line to contend with, the Yank is a monster and a very straight kick so we must a hatch a plan to counter the the supply to him. If he gets silver service, he will be hard to contain.
Williams and Martin will be good ins for us, Teague said in the presser Martin should be right to go, sounds like he nearly played v Rich. Be interesting to see if any other changes come from the VFL sides performance.

[kruddler]

Tough MC calls this week. I've tried picking the team several times and no matter which way i do it, i can't get LOB in the best 26!

I'll pick the 22, and nominate a sub and show the 'like for like' replacements.

McDonald -> Silvagni (inj)
Martin -> LOB
Williams -> SPS
Kennedy -> SUB

Close to selection....Cottrell, Stocker, Betts,
Close to omission...Williamson, Dow, Casboult

FB - Plowman  Jones  Williamson
HB - Docherty  Weitering  Saad
W - Setterfield  Cripps  Newnes
HF - Martin    McKay  Murphy
FF - McDonald Casboult Fisher
R -  Pittonet    Curnow  Walsh
INT - Williams Gibbons Fogarty Dow
SUB - Kennedy
EMG - SPS, Betts, Stocker, Cottrell