Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 1: Carlton vs Richmond

[shawny]

Yep. And listening to Hodge's comments he lays it out chapter and verse where we are lacking here.

I missed that cookie. Can you elaborate on what Hodge said.

[ElwoodBlues1]

We really lack leadership don’t we.

What team gets to within a goal of the best team in the comp with 10 mins to go and yet at that very stage looks shot and like there is no spark or energy to will themselves to every contest to cause the upset.
There was under a goal in it with only half a quarter to go yet we looked flat. HTF does that happen? We were calling for someone to impose themself yet apart for Walsh and maybe Saad no one else seemed to be willing to gut run at the end. Never going to beat a team like tigers unless you take your opportunities and when the moment is there you lift up and give everything you have to take it.
Cripps was flat as a tack too and I was disappointed in our captain in the middle during the second half of the last quarter. Give us nothing.
Yeah I know the kids were bad no argument there but when your so close so late yet never really look like they will do anything to win, that’s the big disappointment and concern going forward for me.

Cripps was manned up tighter in the 2nd half and we dont have another coalface mid to throw in the middle. Tigers got right on top led by Bolton, Lambert and Graham. We could argue Williams was missing but Tiger fans would argue so was Cotchin, apart from Walsh we were disappointing after half time in the middle especially when Pittonet tired.
A real missing key is TDK, Casboult isnt good enough to restrict a player like Nankervis and TDK could have swung the game our way more even than having Williams, Martin, Betts in IMHO.
Casboult and Ed Curnow are two players who we need to look at a bit closer when we have a full fit list, not sure when that will be but both look like the expiry date might be sooner than later.

[kruddler]

Casboult and Ed Curnow are two players who we need to look at a bit closer when we have a full fit list, not sure when that will be but both look like the expiry date might be sooner than later.

If you have Ed, you've gotta have Murphy too.

Ed still does Ed things.....and thats team first, body on the line, gut running....every contest. He stays until his replacement can do that too.
I think Cottrell is his replacement personally, and i'd be picking him before LOB in the future.

[shawny]

If you have Ed, you've gotta have Murphy too.

Ed still does Ed things.....and thats team first, body on the line, gut running....every contest. He stays until his replacement can do that too.
I think Cottrell is his replacement personally, and i'd be picking him before LOB in the future.

I don’t understand the support for Cottrell. Apart from one match winning grab and goal I’ve seen very little to suggest he is anything but a hard nut lacking a footy brain with very limited ability.
I knew that sounds harsh but I just don’t see it with him.

Stocker or Kennedy are better options imo to play that role imo

[cookie2]

I missed that cookie. Can you elaborate on what Hodge said.

Throughout the game he was pointing out our dumb moves,  lack of awareness, poor tactics, inability to control the pace of the game etc. All, to me anyway, signs of a leadership vacuum. I'm sure if we had his onfield leadership we would be a much better team.

[kruddler]

I don’t understand the support for Cottrell. Apart from one match winning grab and goal I’ve seen very little to suggest he is anything but a hard nut lacking a footy brain with very limited ability.
I knew that sounds harsh but I just don’t see it with him.

Stocker or Kennedy are better options imo to play that role imo

Thats 1 more string than LOB.

He has a huge tank, a hard body and a defensive mindset.......that screams tagger to me. As i said, an Ed replacement.
If not him, who takes over the tagging role from Ed? Kennedy is too slow. Stocker is an option, but we haven't seen enough of him i don't think.

[shawny]

Cripps was manned up tighter in the 2nd half and we dont have another coalface mid to throw in the middle. Tigers got right on top led by Bolton, Lambert and Graham. We could argue Williams was missing but Tiger fans would argue so was Cotchin, apart from Walsh we were disappointing after half time in the middle especially when Pittonet tired.
A real missing key is TDK, Casboult isnt good enough to restrict a player like Nankervis and TDK could have swung the game our way more even than having Williams, Martin, Betts in IMHO.
Casboult and Ed Curnow are two players who we need to look at a bit closer when we have a full fit list, not sure when that will be but both look like the expiry date might be sooner than later.

I understand what your saying EB with Cripps being manned up but this is a guy we all high in very high regard, he is our captain and he plays in the middle which is critical when the match is in the balance.

I’m not excusing him. I expect him to have some impact or at least show the effort you expect from your captain at that critical moment. 
He looked flat and tired imo and like I said only Walsh seemed willing to bust his nut when the game was winnable with 10 mins to go.
I’ve seen this more then a few times from Cripps last year as well. Starts like a machine then when the opposition come at us or when we really need a lift he is rarely the one to provide it.
And doc is sadly not half the player he was. I still have a big soft spot for doc and hope he can retain the touch he had but looks a bit unsure of himself at times which is hard to watch

[kruddler]

Throughout the game he was pointing out our dumb moves,  lack of awareness, poor tactics, inability to control the pace of the game etc. All, to me anyway, signs of a leadership vacuum. I'm sure if we had his onfield leadership we would be a much better team.

I don't think its a leadership vacuum exactly.

I think it is a sign of a lack of stability....both off field and on.....for years.

Tigers have had the same coach for a decade....and the same players play each week, year after year. Dusty himself said they are self motivated. They are on auto-pilot, playing on instinct. We have to think about every step we take.

[cookie2]

I don't think its a leadership vacuum exactly.

I think it is a sign of a lack of stability....both off field and on.....for years.

Tigers have had the same coach for a decade....and the same players play each week, year after year. Dusty himself said they are self motivated. They are on auto-pilot, playing on instinct. We have to think about every step we take.

K, we lack maturity and nous? A Hodge type leader would be invaluable atm .

[kruddler]

K, we lack maturity and nous? A Hodge type leader would be invaluable atm .

Of course it would help...

What i'm saying is blokes playing together every week, under the same coach every year will bring some familiarity that would have a similar benefit.