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In a lot of ways I want to beat Richmond more than Collingwood at the moment; their fans have become insufferable since they started winning. They need a good dose of losing for a change.
However, detestation of Collingwood was bred into me. I want to flog them.
We will have a few players available this time, but we will not be a full strength for some time to come.
Williams is near certain to debut for us.
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In : Williams, Martin (hopefully, Betts if not)
Out : Silvagni (inj), O'Brien
Might even consider McDonald ahead of Casboult. Levi looked slower than a statue tonight, and the run in the game really showed him up.
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(03-18-2021, 12:03 PM)tonyo link Wrote:In : Williams, Martin (hopefully, Betts if not)
Out : Silvagni (inj), O'Brien
Might even consider McDonald ahead of Casboult. Levi looked slower than a statue tonight, and the run in the game really showed him up. Levi is definitely lacking some conditioning. He probably needs time in the VFL. His ruck work was very ordinary as well.
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(03-18-2021, 02:17 PM)crashlander date Wrote:Levi is definitely lacking some conditioning. He probably needs time in the VFL. His ruck work was very ordinary as well. Yet I thought in the middle he was more effective in the 2nd half than Pittonet, they all looked underdone, is that perhaps deliberate given the effect of the new rules?
Have a look at Dow, went from run above the ground in pre-season to slug mode again like he was injured!
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Out SOS SPS
In Williams Stocker
I'd persist with Dow and LOB
Martin won't get up I reckon, if he does, perhaps LOB makes way.
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(03-19-2021, 04:58 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Out SOS SPS
In Williams Stocker
I'd persist with Dow and LOB
Martin won't get up I reckon, if he does, perhaps LOB makes way.
I asked in the other thread if anyone would keep LOB in the side.
I then suggested that anyone who would, is doing so simply to give him some time in the 1's and hopefully get up to speed. Rather than he deserves his spot through his performance.
So i gotta ask, which is it?
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3 changes I reckon.
Out: LOB, SPS and Jack
In: Williams, Martin and Oscar. If Martin is not ready I would play Stocker.
I would give Dow another week. He preseason form was promising and needs to be given every chance to prove he can play at this level. Lob made some howling errors that cost us so even though it was a tough game to promote him in he should be dropped imo.
Can’t possibly continue to gift SPS games anymore. Stuff him. Needs a massive rocket this bloke. He either pulls his finger out and gives 100% defensively or he can play 2s and go back to riding bulls in WA next year cause doubt anyone will want him.
Massive massive game this one. No excuses if we are going to make the move we all said we should be this is a must win game.
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(03-19-2021, 05:40 AM)shawny link Wrote:3 changes I reckon.
Out: LOB, SPS and Jack
In: Williams, Martin and Oscar. If Martin is not ready I would play Stocker.
I would give Dow another week. He preseason form was promising and needs to be given every chance to prove he can play at this level. Lob made some howling errors that cost us so even though it was a tough game to promote him in he should be dropped imo.
Can’t possibly continue to gift SPS games anymore. Stuff him. Needs a massive rocket this bloke. He either pulls his finger out and gives 100% defensively or he can play 2s and go back to riding bulls in WA next year cause doubt anyone will want him.
Massive massive game this one. No excuses if we are going to make the move we all said we should be this is a must win game.
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Cant have three small defenders who prefer rebounding to defending and getting their hands dirty.
I thought Saad defended well plus ran/attacked used the ball well after a poor first quarter where he had two goals kicked on him and was in our best players easily.
Docherty and SPS both had very average games for different reasons, poor Doc has had a terrible run with injuries and ill health and just lacks confidence and touch. SPS for reasons discussed at great length by others isnt your ideal defender and now we have Saad, isnt required down back anymore as a rebounder and I'd be removing him from that role.
Williamson does some good things but also looks jittery and everyone knows that when he goes on his right side you have got him covered and he will turn the ball over....his position in the team is 50/50 with Newman waiting his turn.
We also had the shaky Jones on display, when he had the ball it made me nervous which option he would take and Reiwoldt really made him look bad on the stats sheet with such straight kicking, wasnt so much his defending but his panicky use of the ball.
Its a defense needing stability and another player who can be reliable like Weitering and Saad, Tigers have that solid reliable well drilled defense to anchor the team and even though we controlled a lot of the play we couldnt score heavily and they lived off our mistakes rather than generating a lot of their own good play IMO.
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I think the time has come with SPS and biting the bullet.....move him out of defence!
We got Saad and Williams in who play a similar role to SPS, runner + user.
Put SPS further up the ground and let him kick at goal, not 2m in front of mids in the centre of the ground.
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