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(03-12-2021, 01:46 AM)LP link Wrote:Well, I think Kouta in full flight was more Michael Jordan than Dusty. Interesting comparison, I think Kouta was a freak and on his day unstoppable. I think Dusty is better and has achieved more team success and individual success (Normies and Brownlows).
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(03-12-2021, 01:46 AM)LP link Wrote:Well, I think Kouta in full flight was more Michael Jordan than Dusty.
Sadly injuries cut him down in his prime.
I watched the 95 grand final for the first time in years and I can't believe how much I underrated Kouta's game that day. I always had Peter Dean as my Norm Smith but that has now changed. Kouta destroyed Geelong in first half and was BOG by a mile at the break. Nothing happened after half time so he was clearly the most influential player on the ground.
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(03-12-2021, 01:46 AM)LP link Wrote:Well, I think Kouta in full flight was more Michael Jordan than Dusty.
And Jezza at his best was a combination of Larry Bird and Magic Johnson 
There’s no doubting Dusty’s ability, particularly in finals. He has to be up there with the best of contemporary players but he does have the advantage of playing in a very good and well-coached team.
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(03-12-2021, 02:01 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Sadly injuries cut him down in his prime.
I watched the 95 grand final for the first time in years and I can't believe how much I underrated Kouta's game that day. I always had Peter Dean as my Norm Smith but that has now changed. Kouta destroyed Geelong in first half and was BOG by a mile at the break. Nothing happened after half time so he was clearly the most influential player on the ground.
Totally agree MBB - clearly BOG and should have worn Norm.
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Kouta's star burned with a manic intensity for a few seasons, but what came before and after those few seasons leaves a little to be desired IMO. A lot of money for average output, poor leadership and attitude during the Pagan years. His occasional pleas to the club to return in some coaching / mentoring capacity have all fallen on deaf ears up till now. Which should tell you something.
Great when he was great, but..................
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PS; I forgot Judd, he wasn't too bad, better than Dusty! 
Probably Judd is right up there with Diesel, Lethal, GOD and Duck.
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(03-12-2021, 02:01 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Sadly injuries cut him down in his prime.
I watched the 95 grand final for the first time in years and I can't believe how much I underrated Kouta's game that day. I always had Peter Dean as my Norm Smith but that has now changed. Kouta destroyed Geelong in first half and was BOG by a mile at the break. Nothing happened after half time so he was clearly the most influential player on the ground. I was at the game, for mine Kouta was Normy.
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(03-12-2021, 03:22 AM)LP link Wrote:PS; I forgot Judd, he wasn't too bad, better than Dusty!
Probably Judd is right up there with Diesel, Lethal, GOD and Duck. Im old enough to have seen Lethal's 2nd half career, has always been numero uno for me. Dusty's career aint over and he won't he won't kick 915 goals but his impact on games is second to none.
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(03-12-2021, 04:10 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Im old enough to have seen Lethal's 2nd half career, has always been numero uno for me. Dusty's career aint over and he won't he won't kick 915 goals but his impact on games is second to none. Yes, Lethal is my overall best and by some margin, not my favourite Doull is the man in that regard.
Lethal could roll up to Carlton or any other club and replace pretty much anyone in any position 'except perhaps' the rucks, and I say 'perhaps' because they never tried him there and I'm not confident he wouldn't succeed!
Most modern fans have never seen a rover wipe his ar5e with A-Grade KPP opponents while resting at FF, imagine Betts playing like Lockett at FF, then going on ball for a stint of being RooShooter, before returning to Lockett mode just for a rest. Most of the young'uns will think I'm exaggerating!
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(03-12-2021, 04:36 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, Lethal is my overall best and by some margin, not my favourite Doull is the man in that regard.
Lethal could roll up to Carlton or any other club and replace pretty much anyone in any position 'except perhaps' the rucks, and I say 'perhaps' because they never tried him there and I'm not confident he wouldn't succeed!
Most modern fans have never seen a rover wipe his ar5e with A-Grade KPP opponents while resting at FF, imagine Betts playing like Lockett at FF, then going on ball for a stint of being RooShooter, before returning to Lockett mode just for a rest. Most of the young'uns will think I'm exaggerating!
Yes, leaving aside guys who played 100 years ago, and whose exploits are not easily amenable to scrutiny, Lethal is the best player in history IMO. It's a shame he was also a total thug, and taught thuggery to Dermie, Dippa and all his other proteges. Super super player.
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