Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

[madbluboy]

The way the lunatic left carry on you would think America created covid and Trump was covering it up.

[PaulP]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ameri...56y6o.html

[Baggers]

The way the lunatic left carry on you would think America created covid and Trump was covering it up.

Serious question. What exactly is the lunatic left and more specifically, who are they?

[Mav]

Anyone who believes in Medicare for all. Only communists believe in that.

[PaulP]

Serious question. What exactly is the lunatic left and more specifically, who are they?

IMO, at a very broad level, it's basically used for anyone you don't like. More specifically, it applies to anyone ideologically or otherwise connected to Labor, the Greens, the Unions etc. And anyone who disagrees with Fox News and Mango Mussolini.

[tonyo]

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-ameri...56y6o.html

Donald must be starting to feel very lonely.  The orange overalls will match his tan.

[Baggers]

Thank you, Wing Man Mav - sharp observation. Thank you, Pauly - spot on. Same page.

[LP]

Anyone who believes in Medicare for all. Only communists believe in that.

Paul Keating?

It's appalling that very wealthy individuals can end up being treated on the public purse for conditions they could easily self-fund or insure themselves, but how do you actually stop it?

But Medicare and funds like it have a genuine place to both enable access to health care and to help fund it. Most who globally oppose it fall in the "I'm alright Jack" category, and have zero regard for those who need genuine help.

[tonyo]

Anyone who believes in Medicare for all. Only communists believe in that.

Healthcare is not a commodity to be bought and sold by the wealthiest.  The further a country heads down the 'user pays' road, the more likely that social division and anarchy will escalate.

The reason this country has a relatively harmonious society is because people get taken care of.  Many would argue the care is too generous, but the alternative of a US-style fend-for-yourself system brings a bigger set of problems IMHO.

[PaulP]

Healthcare is not a commodity to be bought and sold by the wealthiest.  The further a country heads down the 'user pays' road, the more likely that social division and anarchy will escalate.

The reason this country has a relatively harmonious society is because people get taken care of.  Many would argue the care is too generous, but the alternative of a US-style fend-for-yourself system brings a bigger set of problems IMHO.

I agree, but beware the small government, cost cutting, neo liberal types, who have been slowly but surely whittling away at this "being taken care of" for decades.