Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

[Mav]

I like this description of Trump by Amanda Marcotte:

Donald Trump is a dull, nasty and childish man — but his legacy of amazing idiocy will be long remembered

We're tentatively starting to emerge from the four year-long national nightmare of Donald Trump's presidency, but the reckoning of what the nation endured will take years to really understand. Trump was terrible in so many ways that it's hard to catalog them all: His sociopathic lack of regard for others. His towering narcissism. His utter ease with lying. His cruelty and sadism. The glee he took in cheating and stomping on anything good and decent. His misogyny and racism. His love of encouraging violence, only equaled by his personal cowardice.

But of all the repulsive character traits in a man so wholly lacking in any redeemable qualities, perhaps the most perplexing to his opponents was Trump's incredible stupidity. On one hand, it was maddening that a man so painfully dumb, a man who clearly could barely read — even on those rare occasions when he deigned to wear glasses — still had the low cunning necessary to take over the Republican Party and then the White House.

On the other hand, it was the one aspect of Trump's personality that kept hope alive. Surely a man so stupid, his opponents believed, will one day blunder so badly he can't be saved, even by his most powerful sycophants. That has proved to be the case as Trump fumbles his way through a failed coup, unable and unwilling to see that stealing the election from Joe Biden is a lost cause.

[DJC]

Nah I'm pointing out how neither side has a balanced opinion of politics.  They both behave like spoilt children and throw the toys out of the cot when they don't get their way and cannot faulty concede they've lost and also gloat when they win.

Its very ?? thing to do.

With the greatest of respect Thry, that’s rubbish.

American politics has always been marked by the greatest respect of the constitution, the oath of office, and those who have held the offices of president and vice-president.  It’s only since the evil, bloated, delusional, psychopathic, failed reality TV personality lied his way to the presidency that things have changed.

The cry baby is the first POTUS to voluntarily decline to attend his successor’s inauguration.  That says it all!

[Lods]

https://www.today.com/news/here-s-histor...or-t205380

Not necessarily unprecedented.....but perhaps ominous.

If Trump's minions want to make a bit of a fuss at the inauguration it would be a bit 'awkward' if Trump was there.
I suspect Biden's plans will be additionally 'low key' given the Covid situation...and that might not be a bad thing.

[LP]

https://www.today.com/news/here-s-histor...or-t205380

 Interesting that history mostly tends towards the greatness of the President Elect in that list!

[capcom]

I'm quite pleased that Trump declined.

[Baggers]

He's already thrown them under the bus publicly, then 30s later encouraged them to fight some more!

How do the dumb fecks keep believing him, he keeps telling them he'll march besides them, and they cheer but he disappears?

And the sad thing is, Spotted One, that they will somehow justify their 'guru's' behaviour. He betrayed them, manipulated them and used, and continues to use, them... and just like some warped and sad version of Stockholm's Syndrome, they'll empty their pockets for him and follow him anywhere and wholeheartedly believe the next load of bullshyte to slither from his evil lips.

[Thryleon]

I don’t like this type of “both sides” argument. There’s a boulder on 1 side and pebble on the other: there’s a rock on both sides. Go back over the last couple of decades and compare responses to presidential elections and you won’t find much to support your both sides argument. Just 1 example: how would Trump and his supporters have behaved if the last election came down to 500 votes in 1 State? Let’s add these details: Biden’s brother’s the Governor of the State and supports Biden’s attempts to stop further counting of votes and a Democrat-dominated Supreme Court shuts down further counting.  There’d be civil war. Instead, Al Gore issued a gracious concession and as sitting Vice-President presided over the certification of George Dubya’s electoral college win as Pence did a couple of days ago. And he did so with a smile and good grace. Far from retaliating with a campaign of total opposition, many Democrats in Congress even supported Bush’s ill-advised war against Iraq.

https://www.google.com/search?q=burning+...e&ie=UTF-8

Check the #notmypresident on Instagram.

Last president impeached was a democrat. 

Look, I understand the truth is uncomfortable but im simply pointing at hypocrisies.

If you disagree that's fine, but IMHO i find it hilarious and hypocritical.

[Thryleon]

With the greatest of respect Thry, that’s rubbish.

American politics has always been marked by the greatest respect of the constitution, the oath of office, and those who have held the offices of president and vice-president.  It’s only since the evil, bloated, delusional, psychopathic, failed reality TV personality lied his way to the presidency that things have changed.

The cry baby is the first POTUS to voluntarily decline to attend his successor’s inauguration.  That says it all!

If you are going to call my opinion rubbish don't bother adding with greatest respect. 

Its pointless.

The toys being thrown out of the cot by democrats for the last 4 years. 

[LP]

The toys being thrown out of the cot by democrats for the last 4 years. 

[member=105]Thryleon[/member]‍  What do you mean by this, can you give me an example of what you refer to?

[Mav]

Maybe he thinks the Democrats should have been okay with Trump seeking political help from other countries. Russia, Ukraine & China, quite the trifecta. And why did he act like the Siberian Candidate whenever Putin was concerned? Why has there been no response whatsoever to the biggest ever foreign intrusion into US Government systems? And I mean NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER. Why did Mnuchin break the law by refusing to show Congress Trump’s tax returns?

We really are in the theatre of the absurd now. You must be implying that Trump was a good and decent President who has been unfairly resisted by political opponents. But the guy is a criminal who is totally unfit to be President. His latest outrage, fomenting insurrection with a riot that killed 5 people, puts that beyond doubt. But that was merely the culmination of criminality, corruption, racism and bastardry that has been flagrantly displayed since the start of his presidency. Right from the start, he made it clear he would coddle white supremacists and right-wing nutters such as QAnon despite the FBI’s consistent warnings over the years that right-wing extremists were the biggest threat when it comes to domestic terrorism.

Your other implication is that this was always just partisan politics. Strange you haven’t bothered to deal with Trump’s Birther attack and Mitch McConnell’s Dr No impersonation, because I think you’ll find the GOP has been the party that has the problem with bipartisanship. But Trump isn’t just another GOP guy. He invaded the GOP like toxoplasmosis, taking control of it and its representatives. He taught them how to love Russia and the Klan. Fears that a malignant narcissist would do damage to the USA and by extension Australia took us all to a much different place than whether your typical Republican would start stupid wars or try yet again to show trickle down economics can work provided you give enough tax breaks to the rich.

Poor Hitler. Right from the start, he had enemies who were trying to bring him down. And that Winston Churchill always seemed to be at his throat.