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More than what we've got at the moment I'd think Keogh? We've recruited quite a few over recent years but at the moment, Cripps and Walsh are probably the only two A-Graders? Murphy is coming towards the end as is Curnow (who is more of a run-with mid anyway). The jury is still out on Dow and O'Brien and the young guys from last year's draft are unproven at the moment too. Kennedy seems to be out of favour. What we've really lacked with midfielders is someone with elite disposal skills able to hit a target up forward. SPS certainly has those skills but hasn't been able to find enough of the ball when running through the middle.
With the likes of Saad, Newman, Williamson, Plowman etc down back, this season could be the time for SPS to move back into the middle?
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(12-21-2020, 02:28 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:More than what we've got at the moment I'd think Keogh? We've recruited quite a few over recent years but at the moment, Cripps and Walsh are probably the only two A-Graders? Murphy is coming towards the end as is Curnow (who is more of a run-with mid anyway). The jury is still out on Dow and O'Brien and the young guys from last year's draft are unproven at the moment too. Kennedy seems to be out of favour. What we've really lacked with midfielders is someone with elite disposal skills able to hit a target up forward. SPS certainly has those skills but hasn't been able to find enough of the ball when running through the middle.
With the likes of Saad, Newman, Williamson, Plowman etc down back, this season could be the time for SPS to move back into the middle? Thanks for the decent reply?
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(12-21-2020, 02:28 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:More than what we've got at the moment I'd think Keogh? We've recruited quite a few over recent years but at the moment, Cripps and Walsh are probably the only two A-Graders? Murphy is coming towards the end as is Curnow (who is more of a run-with mid anyway). The jury is still out on Dow and O'Brien and the young guys from last year's draft are unproven at the moment too. Kennedy seems to be out of favour. What we've really lacked with midfielders is someone with elite disposal skills able to hit a target up forward. SPS certainly has those skills but hasn't been able to find enough of the ball when running through the middle.
With the likes of Saad, Newman, Williamson, Plowman etc down back, this season could be the time for SPS to move back into the middle? Well if you look at the article which I started this thread with, that aint happening any time soon.
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Which is hard to fathom GTC? As many have stated on this and other threads, our defence is probably the one area that we are covered....apart from maybe a key defender if one of Jones or Weitering goes down (hence Oscar McDonald training with the club). We have probably lacked that good ball use coming out of defence but with Saad and Docherty, I think SPS could be better used in the middle. Hopefully Stocker comes on this year as he's another option down back as a shut down smaller type of defender.
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(12-21-2020, 04:31 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Which is hard to fathom GTC? As many have stated on this and other threads, our defence is probably the one area that we are covered....apart from maybe a key defender if one of Jones or Weitering goes down (hence Oscar McDonald training with the club). We have probably lacked that good ball use coming out of defence but with Saad and Docherty, I think SPS could be better used in the middle. Hopefully Stocker comes on this year as he's another option down back as a shut down smaller type of defender.
Not really. Teague has made it clear why Samo is required in defence. I think that it will take someone like Stocker showing that they can perform the role just as well before Samo is released to play as a midfielder or half forward. Newman regaining fitness and form will be another option.
As for our midfield rotations, 2020 saw us using Cripps, Walsh, Murphy, Curnow, Setterfield, Newnes, Martin, Gibbons, Kennedy, Betts, Dow, O'Brien, Cottrell, Philp, Fisher and Cuningham, and I think that Simmo and Doc may have had an occasional run through the guts too. This season we will add Williams and possibly Fogarty, Stocker, Kemp, Durden and Carroll.
We have an abundance of midfielders and half forwards who can can take a turn in the midfield. We mightn't have the quality midfielders of other teams but we have the quantity and potential to achieve that quality.
We don't have a lot of small defenders who can shut down an opponent and hit a target under pressure. Newman is probably the closest to Samo in terms of role and skillset, but he doesn't have the same poise. Saad and Docherty play very different roles with Saad literally replacing Simmo and Docherty continuing his loose man role.
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Of that list of midfielders, I reckon 50% won't be listed come end of 2021.
I reckon that list is deceptive, we've actually got very few midfielders that can be relied to perform in that role.
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(12-21-2020, 08:35 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Of that list of midfielders, I reckon 50% won't be listed come end of 2021.
I reckon that list is deceptive, we've actually got very few midfielders that can be relied to perform in that role.
Agree, we lack the real proven class midfield players apart from Cripps and Walsh, but do have an abundance of mids on the list. I think there will be a major effort to get another class proven mid next season and we will trade/delist a few of those mids in training who havent improved.
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(12-21-2020, 08:35 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Of that list of midfielders, I reckon 50% won't be listed come end of 2021.
I reckon that list is deceptive, we've actually got very few midfielders that can be relied to perform in that role. Just about
Cripps, Walsh, Murphy, Curnow, Setterfield, Newnes, Martin, Gibbons, Kennedy, Betts, Dow, O'Brien, Cottrell, Philp, Fisher and Cuningham,
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(12-22-2020, 05:39 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Just about
Cripps, Walsh, Murphy, Curnow, Setterfield, Newnes, Martin, Gibbons, Kennedy, Betts, Dow, O'Brien, Cottrell, Philp, Fisher and Cuningham, Those blokes in red are not mids.
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(12-22-2020, 05:39 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Just about
Cripps, Walsh, Murphy, Curnow, Setterfield, Newnes, Martin, Gibbons, Kennedy, Betts, Dow, O'Brien, Cottrell, Philp, Fisher and Cuningham, I think Paddy Dow will ask for a trade if he cant crack too many senior games, reckon Philp might be persisted with and Ed will get another year after 2021 because he is still one of our more consistent players all be it limited in some areas.
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