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Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
(10-09-2020, 02:30 AM)Mav link Wrote:Hmmm ... I’m guessing the posters who say Pence won are white guys (correct me if I’m wrong). No criticism there: I’m a white guy too.

Then why bother saying it?  Any better than Biden saying to a black man "You ain't black" if he voted for Trump?
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(10-09-2020, 02:30 AM)Mav link Wrote:Hmmm ... I’m guessing the posters who say Pence won are white guys (correct me if I’m wrong). No criticism there: I’m a white guy too. But would women and people of colour agree? It looks like Trump has a massive problem with women and I doubt they would have been impressed by Pence’s dominance displays such as interrupting and blowing past agreed time limits. I doubt black women in particular would have been impressed by Trump telling Fox that Harris came across as a monster.

The problem with saying X won the debate is that the only result that matters is whether the debate changed minds. Treating it as an academic exercise is missing the point. Both made sure they didn’t alienate those who are currently leaning towards voting for their tickets. The problem is that there’s more leaning towards Biden and historically VP debates don’t change momentum very much.

A week before the last election a video of Trump was all over the news saying to pick up women all you had to do was grab them by the pussy. His voters didn't care.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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Trump's relationship with his supporters is that of a cult leader, and as such, expecting rational reactions to what he says or does is futile.
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(10-09-2020, 05:26 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Trump's relationship with his supporters is that of a cult leader, and as such, expecting rational reactions to what he says or does is futile.

Apparently the covid cocktail he took contained cells derived from an aborted fetus. Probably not going to go down well with some of his voters.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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(10-09-2020, 05:32 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Apparently the covid cocktail he took contained cells derived from an aborted fetus. Probably not going to go down well with some of his voters.

If they were looking at it rationally, then yes, I would agree. I can guarantee you, they will in some manner simply explain it away. Cult leaders are immune from doing any wrong. If they do something lousy, it's swept under the carpet or done for good reason.
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China pledges to make COVID vaccine free for all, Trump supporters claim Chinese vaccine means tracking chips for everyone! ;D

There goes more Trumps shares plummeting, he will have a brace of nutter supporters and no money!

"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(10-09-2020, 05:32 AM)madbluboy date Wrote:Apparently the covid cocktail he took contained cells derived from an aborted fetus. Probably not going to go down well with some of his voters.
Little Donald!

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If Donald swears on a Bible now, will he burst into flames? :o
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(10-09-2020, 05:44 AM)PaulP link Wrote:If they were looking at it rationally, then yes, I would agree. I can guarantee you, they will in some manner simply explain it away. Cult leaders are immune from doing any wrong. If they do something lousy, it's swept under the carpet or done for good reason.

So very, very true. And a big part of the US culture... they 'barrack' for their political leaders in a manner that is no different to the blind loyalty of a cult member to its leader. Our US brothers and sisters so identify with their political party that it almost forms part of their psychological make-up and blinds them to the weaknesses of their favoured authority figure.

If Trump was the President AND a Democrat, most Republicans would have been calling for his head years ago... and probably have labelled him the Antichrist.
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(10-09-2020, 05:32 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Apparently the covid cocktail he took contained cells derived from an aborted fetus. Probably not going to go down well with some of his voters.

Such a good point and as Pauly said, you watch most Republicans ignore it or explain it away.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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(10-09-2020, 04:50 AM)capcom link Wrote:Then why bother saying it?  Any better than Biden saying to a black man "You ain't black" if he voted for Trump?
Looks like my guess was right.
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