Poll: Would you vote for Dan Andrews if there was a election this weekend?
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Yes
34.78%
8 34.78%
No - I would vote Liberal
30.43%
7 30.43%
No - I would vote Green
0%
0 0%
No - I would vote for another, but not Dan
8.70%
2 8.70%
Undecided
26.09%
6 26.09%
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Who would you vote for in a State Election if held this weekend 28/09
#11
(09-23-2020, 12:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I've said this a couple times on here now. I've forgotten the specifics but will summarise as best i can.

The east-west thing he cops a lot of flak for. From memory Libs signed the papers on it right before labour took over. Estimated cost of $4Bil.

Dan gets into power and has his crew look over it in his first week in office and says its BS. That $4B estimate is way off and its more like $20B. So he is faced with a choice.
a) Go ahead with it, and get accused of going overbudget five-fold.
b) Scrap it, and pay out $1B in doing so and get nothing for it.
He was on a hiding to nothing and it was all set up by the previous government.......a smart political move on their behalf.

Now, we all know he went with 'b'. What he's done with the money is transform the rest of melbournes roads by eliminated level crossings as well as set up the 'missing link' up north and obviously other projects as well. All of this was done with the 'extra' money he would've had to spend to fulfil the bogus contract.

Given those 2 scenarios, i'm happy with his choice.

To be fair, i was not happy with that whole scenario for years until one day i heard an interview with him and he was asked about it. Once you heard him explain the facts, and the options it left him, you can't fault his logic on the matter.

Logic just isnt sensational enough I am afraid.  It doesnt win votes, and it doesnt make a good headline.

Spending 1 billion to not build a road wins headlines though.
"everything you know is wrong"

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#12
How's that West Gate tunnel going?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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#13
(09-23-2020, 12:08 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Dan gets into power and has his crew look over it in his first week in office and says its BS. That $4B estimate is way off and its more like $20B. So he is faced with a choice.
a) Go ahead with it, and get accused of going overbudget five-fold.
b) Scrap it, and pay out $1B in doing so and get nothing for it.
He was on a hiding to nothing and it was all set up by the previous government.......a smart political move on their behalf.
One small problem with that was that he told the public during the election campaign that it was going to cost (dont quote me on the figure) something in the order of $100-150M to tear up. He has spent something in the order of $1-1.2B I think.
As for his West Gate Tunnel debacle...
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#14
(09-23-2020, 02:46 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:One small problem with that was that he told the public during the election campaign that it was going to cost (dont quote me on the figure) something in the order of $100-150M to tear up. He has spent something in the order of $1-1.2B I think.
As for his West Gate Tunnel debacle...

To say nothing of the fact that he received Federal funding for East West link, kept it and refused to repay it.  Such principles
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#15
(09-23-2020, 05:53 AM)capcom link Wrote:To say nothing of the fact that he received Federal funding for East West link, kept it and refused to repay it.  Such principles
Well yeah there's that too, let's not quibble over a few measly shekels. ;D  ;D
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#16
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victo...l#comments
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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#17
(10-04-2020, 09:25 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victo...l#comments

Sobering to say the least
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#18
No comment. I am done with Andrews.
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#19
(09-22-2020, 10:29 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:He's the analogy that keeps running around in my head. An arsonist lites a fire then turns up to put the fire out and seemingly saves the day. He 's still an arsonist.

Sums it up nicely. The guy's political career ended with the second wave. Whether he wants to accept it or not is another thing.

Dan somehow reminds me of every Essendon supporter I've ever spoken to who still denies any wrongdoing by the club over the "supplements" saga.

The choice of leaders though..... urgh! The Lib loser with the most punchable face I've ever seen (not that I'm advocating violence)?
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#20
(10-05-2020, 01:08 AM)jeza link Wrote:Sums it up nicely. The guy's political career ended with the second wave. Whether he wants to accept it or not is another thing.

Dan somehow reminds me of every Essendon supporter I've ever spoken to who still denies any wrongdoing by the club over the "supplements" saga.

The choice of leaders though..... urgh! The Lib loser with the most punchable face I've ever seen (not that I'm advocating violence)?
As I said jeza, dig a big hole, push em all into it, back fill it and start again. Disillusionment is un understatement.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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