Post Game Participation: AFL Rd 16: Carlton vs Sydney at Metricon

[cookie2]

Gov may possibly get another contract but on much reduced pay with heavy emphasis on performance targets. I don't think he is what we need atm but that is what is more l likely to happen than him being shown the door.

[Gointocarlton]

Gov may possibly get another contract but on much reduced pay with heavy emphasis on performance targets. I don't think he is what we need atm but that is what is more l likely to happen than him being shown the door.

Im tipping Gov will take up much of this forum in the coming months, there will be some firey debates I reckon.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Do we really think Teague will cut his boy McGovern loose or give him a thin contract...doubt it, unless Liddle/Lloyd
pull rank . If he gets a performance based contract he will starve to death and have to go on Jobseeker....

[IvanAwfulbigone]

I want to highlight a piece of play that some would classify as a “fail” inasmuch as we lost the initiative and turned the ball over, but I saw something else.

... slick chain of handballs along the wing to half forward flank with Walsh the link man ... Owie was next in line for the receive and you could almost see Walsh’s body language willing his teammate to run to the right space, but Owie didn’t quite ‘get it’ (fair enough) and in holding on to the ball for a micro second too long Walsh was tackled and penalised.

Demonstrated, for me, Walsh’s:
a) awareness and footy smarts. Probably the best reader of the play in our team, and;
b) leadership and selflessness. He could have chosen to throw the ball onto his boot but was willing to trust the first gamer.

Bravo Sam Walsh.

[WASurfer]

While there's any sort of doubt on Curnow getting back fully fit next year, McGovern is probably saved....but apart from that, he's a complete waste of space. If Kennedy is fit, get him in this week....he was in good form prior to the injury and was going forward, taking marks and kicking goals.

That draft with Dow/O'Brien was a disaster until you scroll down and see the pick used to get TDK.....the kid is going to be a jet for us and agree...him with Casboult as back up ruck/forward is probably the best set up.

Walsh destined for AA at some point in the future.

And don't tell me Crippa wouldn't have enjoyed that big banana goal.....would've been keen to show the digits to that flog Cornes.

But that said, giving up 7 straight goals off the mark to a team well below us on the ladder is unacceptable and it's become a disturbing trend under Teague....the inability to play 4 quarters of footy....or play okay footy and just not convert.

[cookie2]

Do we really think Teague will cut his boy McGovern loose or give him a thin contract...doubt it, unless Liddle/Lloyd
pull rank . If he gets a performance based contract he will starve to death and have to go on Jobseeker....

? It'll help to keep his weight in check.

[crashlander]

The gov stunk it up again and is badly out of form. He should be dropped for Kennedy.

Even so. He's a good player when in form. I haven't given up on him yet.

He needs some time in the Two's to get his form and match fitness back. See him lead up and get some easy marks would be the best thing that could happen for him.
Interesting Question: do the twos play again this year?
I hope so.

[Gointocarlton]

Do we really think Teague will cut his boy McGovern loose or give him a thin contract...doubt it, unless Liddle/Lloyd
pull rank . If he gets a performance based contract he will starve to death and have to go on Jobseeker....

Well at least that will help his skin folds.
In all seriousness, he has alot of work to do to convince us fans he is worthy of a contract. I would guess Teague's patience is wearing thin, mates or no mates.

[Shakin77]

Blame COVID for the forward line structure. Forward line needs to connect with the midfield to function properly otherwise it's difficult for any Forwards Coach. Hard to structure unless you're connecting with your mids. Issue is there's not alot of training sessions and mostly you can only train with 8 at a time so that connect becomes alot more difficult.  For that reason the season has favoured established sides with highly, well-versed, entrenched game styles where you are predictable to your teammates. We've done ok considering.

McGovern won't be going so be best be getting himself in shape and not waste our time. No-one is taking up that contract. Much easier work for him as forward at Adelaide.

EDIT: Just noticed McGovern's contract runs out this year. We took up the rest of his Adelaide contract. Probably we won't delist him but her certainly won't be on the same dollars.

Don't mind that Iaj.  I was looking for someone to blame last night.  Barker (Stoppages), Bruce (Forwards) or Stanton (Midfield and Transition) or a combination of all. 

We need to get the ball in the hands of better users.    Need O'Brien to come on.

Martin is going to be a massive lose.  He is so important to our structure.  For his size he has a great set of hands.  8 marks from 49% game time.  He links up so well between defense and attack.    We really have no one else who can do what he can do.

[crashlander]

McGovern's night:
23 metres gained
(crickets)
1 kick
(crickets)
4 handballs
(crickets)
2 tackles
(crickets)

He had a shocker, no two ways about it.
I wouldn't be giving him away for nothing: we spent to much money getting him. But he needs time to get his game right, to start holding his marks, especially.