Pre game Discussion Round 15 Carlton vs GWS at Metricon.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Personally I would have kept Kerr but I suppose Liddle and co didnt like the fact he was the grandson of a long time benefactor who's family has a rich Carlton history..

I didn't mind Kerr either and thought he had ability plus some aggression and felt we could have rookied him at worst..

[Thryleon]

Yep.  In the case of Kerr we did a "anything else must be something better".  Not anything else has kicked 3 goals vs Geelong in an otherwise poor team performance.

Kerr was probably turned off for a variety of reasons.  There is a variety of reasons why the move from Bolton to Teague occurred, and IMHO getting the lesser lights to buy in was one of them.

The more time goes on the more it looks as though some guys just didn't want to play for him as a senior coach and that the overall environment was lacking something from that perspective.  This is not necessarily a knock on Bolton either, the players are responsible for this too.  Where it starts to get hazy for me, is where we have blokes who came into our club from other environments, seemed to be a mix of honest triers, some that actually were talented and could play footy and for some reason never gained traction and a consistent run at it with us, when we were parked on the bottom of the ladder playing kids.

The approach seems very different this year.  Not overloaded with kids (sure some of them are the same ones that have done some growing up over the past 2-4 years to become what they are today) but some of the others are still becoming what i would call a 24/7 footballer and a reliable performer for 4 quarters at a time.

That is down to our environment, and not necessarily the senior coaches fault, but he is the bloke responsible for managing the environment.  We as fans are partly to blame for that.  We kept asking for the kids to get game time to make them get good faster not really knowing what is best for each player.

[LP]

I think we did wrong by Kerr rucking him, we tried to turn him into another Casboult, when Casboult was a ruck long before he was a forward.

Kerr had never been a ruck as a kid, and I note we've did similar with Jones, but now that Jones is proving a useful KPD we've killed the idea of him rucking. I don't know why that is the case, KPDs are a thousand times easier to find than an effective KPF, and yet we ruck Casboult and we've even tried rucking McKay leaving Jones in D50!

Jones was super-impressive rucking in the VFL before he came into the AFL as a defender, he played ruck in much the same way De Koning plays ruck at the moment.

To me it's just another example of our clubs weird logic.

[cookie2]

I was very disappointed that we didn't make more of Kerr. I think he showed some promise as a forward but somehow never got a run at it with us.
Anyway,  not really relevant to this topic.

[Gointocarlton]

RE Kerr, there is always the possibility of something we the public don't know about, like a series of misdemeanours etc.

[flyboy77]

Kelly a definite out for GWS.

Cripps no certainty.

McGovern available and Weiters likely.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Kelly a definite out for GWS.

Cripps no certainty.

McGovern available and Weiters likely.

A fully fit Cripps is going to have trouble getting a kick on DeBeor so it might be better if he misses and rests the body and mind.

[WASurfer]

No mention of Cunningham or Kennedy on the injured list?

[Shakin77]

No mention of Cunningham or Kennedy on the injured list?

Both played in the scratch match

[flyboy77]

A fully fit Cripps is going to have trouble getting a kick on DeBeor so it might be better if he misses and rests the body and mind.

Mental problems aside (his partner), I don't think Cripps has been fully fit at any point this year.

A shadow of previous years.