CV and mad panic behaviour

[Lods]

Yes no doubt, but that is a refined measurement not a deliberate misrepresentation.

The tell there is you accept the new measurement as new evidence, you don't continue to argue Jupiter has 12 moons.

I realise some might be mislead but dubious websites, and have real conviction in the argument, but putting blinkers on will hardly instill confidence in the motives behind the debate.

I'm more aware now about the mental health of the people that get involved in these debates, but I've no less conviction about debunking crap as it is remains the primary cause of the duress and many other troubles.

The comment was meant as a bit of a joke but to use it to make the point....

I'm not sure how many moons Jupiter has.
I don't know.
No-one does.
There are currently 79 'known' moons.
I don't discount the possibility that there are more that will be discovered as detection capabilities are improved.
I'm keeping an open mind.

[LP]

The comment was meant as a bit of a joke but to use it to make the point....

 I have no detectable sense of humor! 

[flyboy77]

What a dreadful condescension. FB77, the amount of arrogance required to say that to K is breathtaking. Are you so glued to your opinion and perspective that you resort to a kind of intellectual snobbery toward anyone who doesn't revere your opinion and fall to their knees in agreement, as evidenced by such put-downs? Play the ball Cocko, not the man.

Cry me a river Baggers.

Arrogance? Condescension?

Kruddler's a big boy.

Play the ball you suggest.

I did.

[DJC]

Got abused on my walk (take your mask off idiot... Wake up!!!  It's a government conspiracy to reduce the population by giving everyone legionnaires disease!) by a plandemic protestor wearing a box on her head... 

There's nuff nuffs out there people... Stay safe one and all.

Sounds more like mental illness than conspiracy theorist but, whatever the cause, it’s not pleasant to be abused and particularly when you’re doing the right thing.

[capcom]

Undoubtedly.
Be careful with Science though.
When I went to school Jupiter had 12 moons.
Now it's 79 and counting. ;D  ;D  ;D

The definition of "moon" needs a serious rethink when some total moron idiots in the astronomy field claimed Pluto wasn't even a planet.  The ignorance and arrogance is astounding. 

[kruddler]

The definition of "moon" needs a serious rethink when some total moron idiots in the astronomy field claimed Pluto wasn't even a planet.  The ignorance and arrogance is astounding. 

It was a planet before there was an actual definition of what a planet was.

Once they finally decided to define what a planet was, Pluto didn't fit the bill.

There are actually bigger rocks in the asteroid belt than pluto, and would fit the bill of being a planet moreso than what pluto does.

So do you change the criteria to fit pluto in......and let in potentially hundreds more? Or do you downgrade Pluto to a 'dwarf planet' so all those plutonites can still feel warm and fuzzy.

As an aside....what is a continent?
I'm sure you know all of the continents, but what is the definition of one? Is there an actual scientific definition of one?

[kruddler]

What a dreadful condescension. FB77, the amount of arrogance required to say that to K is breathtaking. Are you so glued to your opinion and perspective that you resort to a kind of intellectual snobbery toward anyone who doesn't revere your opinion and fall to their knees in agreement, as evidenced by such put-downs? Play the ball Cocko, not the man.

Don't worry baggers, that is flyboys way of admitting defeat.

I reckon he might be nursing a hangover today as his posts seem to go downhill pretty quickly the later it got.

I do notice how he replied to you, but ignore my rebuttal. Wonder why.

[capcom]

Once they finally decided to define what a planet was, Pluto didn't fit the bill.

Who in the hell are "they"?  There's hundreds of well known scientists ahead in the queue of the IAU that refuse to accept an arbitrary decision.  Angers me ... total crap

The bonsai tree is still a tree

[kruddler]

Who in the hell are "they"?  There's hundreds of well known scientists ahead in the queue of the IAU that refuse to accept an arbitrary decision.  Angers me ... total crap

The bonsai tree is still a tree

A new class of objects and how to define a planet
The IAU has been responsible for the naming and nomenclature of planetary bodies and their satellites since the early 1900s. As Professor Ron Ekers, past president of the IAU, explains:

Such decisions and recommendations are not enforceable by any national or international law; rather they establish conventions that are meant to help our understanding of astronomical objects and processes. Hence, IAU recommendations should rest on well-established scientific facts and have a broad consensus in the community concerned.(read the full article on page 16 of the IAU GA Newspaper)

The IAU decided to create a committee to gather opinions from a broad range of scientific interests, with input from professional astronomers, planetary scientists, historians, science publishers, writers and educators. Thus the Planet Definition Committee of the IAU Executive Committee was formed and quickly went about preparing a draft resolution to put to the members of the IAU. After the final meeting in Paris the draft resolution was completed. One crucial aspect of the resolution is described by Professor Owen Gingerich, Chair of the IAU Planet Definition Committee: "On the scientific side, we wanted to avoid arbitrary cut-offs simply based on distances, periods, magnitudes, or neighbouring objects". (read more in the IAU GA Newspaper, starting on page 16 of the PDF)

Well someone has to come up with standards that set the groundwork. These guys have been doing it for over 100 years, so why not?!

[capcom]

Couldn't give a stuff ... Pluto is a planet.  EOS