CV and mad panic behaviour

[LP]

Listen to "Stuff You Should Know" podcast..........................for information about everything that has ever existed. (over 1200 episodes)

In this instance, they did one with Bill Gates a week ago. He talks about Vaccines for Covid 19.

https://player.fm/series/stuff-you-shoul...bill-gates

They also did one on Covid 19 a while back which goes into great detail about it.
Got episodes on Spanish Flu (100 years ago, same thing happened as now - we learned nothing!)

[member=20]kruddler[/member]  Great links.

Perhaps they did learn something, but current actions are just wilfully ignoring history to save a penny! :

Yes, the current situation is being politically managed almost identical to the Spanish Flu, it's truly bizarre. If you read up on the Spanish Flu history you can almost predict what the current politicians and bureaucrats will do next, even though some of those actions are monstrously wrong!

Political and social media spin about vaccines is very dangerous, it leaves an excuse for politicians to sit on their hands and do nothing, even though they are well aware of how long it takes to get a vaccine up and working. They been told this multiple times face to face, yet they broadcast disinformation, mostly I suspect to stop the social media causing people to lose hope and break the isolation rules. But I don't think misleading the public helps at all!

Last night Channel Dots had an interview with a virologist, he told them the Oxford vaccine Phase-3 trials haven't started yet, and that means at least 6 to 12 months before someone in the general public sees a dose, even if the process is shortcut. Even with the development on turbo the people in the trial have to be treated for at least 3 to 6 months before they know if the vaccine is safe and effective, then they will start making it in bulk. Not five minutes later on the same news broadcast Channel Dots reported that the vaccine could be here before Christmas, it's bullcrap and somebody should hold them to account!

[rocky]

Media needs to be held with the same "esteem" as politicians and bureaucrats

[Baggers]

Media needs to be held in the same "esteem" as politicians and bureaucrats

It is. On the untrustworthy scale the top 5 professions (not in order) are: politicians, used car salesmen, journalists, real estate agents and finance/banking folks.

[cookie2]

From what I can tell,  many so-called journalists are actually purveyors of propaganda or political activists.

[Thryleon]

[member=20]kruddler[/member]  Great links.

Perhaps they did learn something, but current actions are just wilfully ignoring history to save a penny! :

Yes, the current situation is being politically managed almost identical to the Spanish Flu, it's truly bizarre. If you read up on the Spanish Flu history you can almost predict what the current politicians and bureaucrats will do next, even though some of those actions are monstrously wrong!

Political and social media spin about vaccines is very dangerous, it leaves an excuse for politicians to sit on their hands and do nothing, even though they are well aware of how long it takes to get a vaccine up and working. They been told this multiple times face to face, yet they broadcast disinformation, mostly I suspect to stop the social media causing people to lose hope and break the isolation rules. But I don't think misleading the public helps at all!

Last night Channel Dots had an interview with a virologist, he told them the Oxford vaccine Phase-3 trials haven't started yet, and that means at least 6 to 12 months before someone in the general public sees a dose, even if the process is shortcut. Even with the development on turbo the people in the trial have to be treated for at least 3 to 6 months before they know if the vaccine is safe and effective, then they will start making it in bulk. Not five minutes later on the same news broadcast Channel Dots reported that the vaccine could be here before Christmas, it's bullcrap and somebody should hold them to account!

Have you heard about the current capability that we are looking to produce said vaccine?

To dose the population in large enough numbers, we would have to double our ability to create one and that timeline might work, provided we already know what it looks like, and stop producing vaccines for everything else (including measles, mumps, rubella and all the standard ones the kids get).

We are years away from a proper tested vaccine being administered to anyone!

[ElwoodBlues1]

Have you heard about the current capability that we are looking to produce said vaccine?

To dose the population in large enough numbers, we would have to double our ability to create one and that timeline might work, provided we already know what it looks like, and stop producing vaccines for everything else (including measles, mumps, rubella and all the standard ones the kids get).

We are years away from a proper tested vaccine being administered to anyone!

Its the proper testing bit thats the problem.....you listen to Dr Nick C last night and he gave me the impression that testing wasnt going to be a high priority when questioned and said everything is being fast tracked.
I dont want some untested vaccine in my system like Russia are going to give to their political prisoners and other second rate citizens. Are people going to be keen to have the first batch of any vaccine rushed through any countries medical system?
Saying all that I'd be buying some CSL shares....

[cookie2]

I think there will be 'incentives' for people to get vaccinated as well as 'disincentives ' if they don't.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I think there will be 'incentives' for people to get vaccinated as well as 'disincentives ' if they don't.

There is rumour talk of Vaccine passports and travel restrictions even interstate, look forward to more protests and increased numbers of anti vaxers. Like I said I wouldnt be keen on the first batch of vaccine and would want to wait and see the side effects etc.

[Baggers]

There is rumour talk of Vaccine passports and travel restrictions even interstate, look forward to more protests and increased numbers of anti vaxers. Like I said I wouldnt be keen on the first batch of vaccine and would want to wait and see the side effects etc.

Likewise. Too often in the rush to be the first company to get the vaccine approval and the billions of dollars that come with it, corners can be cut. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, sheesh I was vaccined to the eye balls when I joined the Navy with TB, Yellow Fever and a couple of others - no problems though a few blokes did get crook, so I have absolutely no issue with the rock solid science in regard to the effectiveness of vaccines as a scientific principal / fact - the positive evidence is overwhelming... but a 'rushed through' vaccine? Nuh, FO. A 'rushed through to get the billions of clams' any medicine I always treat with healthy skepticism.

It's all about trust and a lot of community trust has gone out the window with all too many drugs/medicines that have wreaked havoc on the lives of too many people through being expedited to ensure the securing of billions of dollars - never, ever underestimate human greed. Once a C-19 has passed rigorous/legitimate/trusted testing I'll be one of the first with my sleeve rolled up.

[LP]

From what I can tell,  many so-called journalists are actually purveyors of propaganda or political activists.

 Many modern "journalists", using the term in it's broadest sense, are nothing more than social media bloggers in a power suit!