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CV and mad panic behaviour
Elwood - not having a go, but where is that stat from - I have seen it mentioned a few times.  ABS posted their stats on 25/9/19 for 2018.

There are a couple of articles that speak about 2019 - but haven't seen anything that officially compares 2020 against anything.
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(08-02-2020, 10:06 AM)dodge link Wrote:Elwood - not having a go, but where is that stat from - I have seen it mentioned a few times.  ABS posted their stats on 25/9/19 for 2018.

There are a couple of articles that speak about 2019 - but haven't seen anything that officially compares 2020 against anything.
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(08-02-2020, 07:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:A hidden stat you wont find in the media, 200% increase in the suicide rate in Victoria due to Covid19....
I often wonder how much of that is due to COVID, and the lock-down effects on trade and employment, versus the effects on some caused by the media's hysterical reporting and sensationalism!

There are a lot of people just soaking in everything the TV stations and newspapers say, without being mindful enough to cast a critical eye, it must be draining, it must be oppressive. That's not even considering the effects of social media, which is another whole level worse and unaccountable!

Look at those graphs posted earlier, most will just look at them and never read the values on either axis, they just see the shapes and assume they all tell the same story. I find my elderly mother-in-law is particularly vulnerable, especially to the late afternoon news sensationalism. There would be plenty in a bad head-space even before this COVID situation who dread turning on the TV, but can't help doing so!
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(08-02-2020, 11:46 AM)LP link Wrote:I often wonder how much of that is due to COVID, and the lock-down effects on trade and employment, versus the effects on some caused by the media's hysterical reporting and sensationalism!

There are a lot of people just soaking in everything the TV stations and newspapers say, without being mindful enough to cast a critical eye, it must be draining, it must be oppressive. That's not even considering the effects of social media, which is another whole level worse and unaccountable!

Look at those graphs posted earlier, most will just look at them and never read the values on either axis, they just see the shapes and assume they all tell the same story. I find my elderly mother-in-law is particularly vulnerable, especially to the late afternoon news sensationalism. There would be plenty in a bad head-space even before this COVID situation who dread turning on the TV, but can't help doing so!
LP,I think the reporting as it always does covers the horror stories more and as you say the vulnerable folk with issues pre covid find it tough to wake up each day and read and see the bad news.
There would be an element of employment related deaths I guess to similar to what the farming/rural industry has gone and is going through. I'm sure we have some posters from CSC doing it tough too and lets hope they are ok and can reach out to family/friends etc. Paramedics are attending far more mental health calls than covid cases is what I have been told...
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(08-02-2020, 12:09 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:LP,I think the reporting as it always does covers the horror stories more and as you say the vulnerable folk with issues pre covid find it tough to wake up each day and read and see the bad news.
There would be an element of employment related deaths I guess to similar to what the farming/rural industry has gone and is going through. I'm sure we have some posters from CSC doing it tough too and lets hope they are ok and can reach out to family/friends etc. Paramedics are attending far more mental health calls than covid cases is what I have been told...
Interesting, I had a mate text me just yesterday telling me alot of his male clients are telling him they are struggling. Gotta speak up boys, talk, get help, anywhere, anytime.
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(08-02-2020, 11:46 AM)LP link Wrote:I often wonder how much of that is due to COVID, and the lock-down effects on trade and employment, versus the effects on some caused by the media's hysterical reporting and sensationalism!

There are a lot of people just soaking in everything the TV stations and newspapers say, without being mindful enough to cast a critical eye, it must be draining, it must be oppressive. That's not even considering the effects of social media, which is another whole level worse and unaccountable!

Look at those graphs posted earlier, most will just look at them and never read the values on either axis, they just see the shapes and assume they all tell the same story. I find my elderly mother-in-law is particularly vulnerable, especially to the late afternoon news sensationalism. There would be plenty in a bad head-space even before this COVID situation who dread turning on the TV, but can't help doing so!

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(08-02-2020, 12:09 PM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Paramedics are attending far more mental health calls than covid cases is what I have been told...
I know people who have experienced this first hand, isolation and boredom do strange things to people even if they are not struggling for cash. A lot of kids(kids by my standard) are resorting to pills because they are bored and it's cheaper than booze. I know of one couple who nearly lost their son after he was given a horse tranquilliser(Ketamine) by "a mate", as a side effect his blood sugar fell so low the paramedics and hospital thought he was heading into diabetic shock. They couldn;t really treast him other than get him to eat which is a bit difficult for someone who is delirious, and they basically had to ride it out until it went one way or the other because they didn't know what else was in the tablet. This kid is or was on the fringe of being a VFL footballer.

Who knows what else they put in those tablets to bulk them up, ..................... "given to him by a mate"! :o
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Two or three weeks ago the media was telling us that we are all getting too fat from sitting around in isolation eating and drinking too much.

Then Dan said reduce the staff on warehouse shifts by 30% to improve social distancing and reduce transmission.

Now the media says reducing warehouse staff will affect a proportional amount of deliveries and we will all starve because we can't get enough food!

What a bunch of ar5eholes the media are!
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Interesting side-effect of isolation and home working.

Apparently people working from home are starting to suffer PTSD like symptoms.

It appears the problem is that in the working from home situation, the corporate psychopaths and megalomaniac micromanagers have lost oversight of their usual office victims. So they are pestering home workers to death with endless meetings, reporting cycles and out of hours updates or requests. People are too scared of losing their job not to answer the call, so they are working longer than ever before from home and more stressed than ever!

In other words paranoid pricks are making the whole situation far worse by becoming bigger pricks than usual!
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(08-07-2020, 12:52 AM)LP link Wrote:Interesting side-effect of isolation and home working.

Apparently people working from home are starting to suffer PTSD like symptoms.

It appears the problem is that in the working from home situation, the corporate psychopaths and megalomaniac micromanagers have lost oversight of their usual office victims. So they are pestering home workers to death with endless meetings, reporting cycles and out of hours updates or requests. People are too scared of losing their job not to answer the call, so they are working longer than ever before from home and more stressed than ever!

In other words pricks are making the whole situation far worse by becoming bigger pricks than usual!
So true, you will always get scumbags taking advantage of others in times of crisis, having to accept extra work for fear of losing their job and being abused by managers. In my line of work its been junior engineers who get abused by Managers/Administrators and are given extra work to take home that wasnt necessary but just done to try and change the system of reporting line and to set precedence. Now there are less full time staff in many jobs a lot of managers will see this as a way to permanently  reduce numbers and increase workloads on remaining staff.

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