Pre Game Perambulations: AFL 2020 R11 Carlton vs West Coast

[flyboy77]

Last listed at 181cm, 72kg.

An enforcer he ain't.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Cotterell couldn't get the ball at U18 level, played tagging roles and on the wing.
Had a shocker U18 GF too... Pros.. he is quick, tackles OK. Philp has more upside but Cotterell will probably follow direction better as that was one of his strengths at U18 level that he will sacrifice his own game, is mature and happy to be a negative player. I prefer to be aggressive and introduce players like Philp or Dow back into the team that can win games..

[LP]

Last listed at 181cm, 72kg.

An enforcer he ain't.

True, but Hunter was 183cm x 76kg, he wasn't soft, size has little to do with it, Hunter was smaller(lighter) than Kade Simpson!

[LP]

Cotterell couldn't get the ball at U18 level, played tagging roles and on the wing.
Had a shocker U18 GF too... Pros.. he is quick, tackles OK. Philp has more upside but Cotterell will probably follow direction better as that was one of his strengths at U18 level that he will sacrifice his own game, is mature and happy to be a negative player. I prefer to be aggressive and introduce players like Philp or Dow back into the team that can win games..

True, the U18s stuff wasn't great, but he won't be on his own in that regard, the last part of the VFL season he got to play in he was pretty good for those that got to see it. Better than we've seen from a bunch of other guys on our list and that is all I can judge him by!

While I don;t know the coaching instructions, when you a a role player sometimes how you go depends on how well others around you follow the rules! Often the U18 stuff is a side-show, with 22 individuals all trying to impress the recruiters. You get stars come out of that the fall dead flat in the AFL system because even if they had diarrhoea the couldn't or wouldn't follow a map to a dunny.

[PaulP]

True, but Hunter was 183cm x 76kg, he wasn't soft, size has little to do with it, Hunter was smaller(lighter) than Kade Simpson!

Super player. Parkin calls Hunter his favourite player of all time.

[LP]

Super player. Parkin calls Hunter his favourite player of all time.

Yes, I'm not trying to parallel Ken Hunter to anybody, in regard to talent, but I think the size analogy in regard to being capable at AFL level is still relevant.

[capcom]

Super player. Parkin calls Hunter his favourite player of all time.

And IMO the greatest player debut in Carlton's history ... '81 VFL park vs Richmond round 1

[capcom]

Super player. Parkin calls Hunter his favourite player of all time.

And IMO the greatest player debut in Carlton's history ... '81 VFL park vs Richmond round 1

[Lods]

Hunter was "brave, courageous and bold".
He was also a very talented footballer.
He attacked the contest with ferocity, and a bit like Simpson, regularly had the crap knocked out of him

Just wondering though whether the size requirements are a little different these days with 190cm/90kg+ midfielders running around.

[LP]

Hunter was "brave, courageous and bold".
He was also a very talented footballer.
He attacked the contest with ferocity, and a bit like Simpson, regularly had the crap knocked out of him

Just wondering though whether the size requirements are a little different these days with 190cm/90kg+ midfielders running around.

But isn't that question equally targeting a Simmo or Walsh?

I think there is still plenty of space for variety, and I suspect a lack of variety is possible a very likely contributing cause for a lack of progress.

Robots only do something unpredictable or weird when they break, too many of the same and everybody knows what you are doing most of the time!