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Cripps ironing out his tagger is the last thing we need.
Cripps is trying to get the better of taggers by using his size and strength and that's simply playing into their hands. What he should be doing is keeping moving so that his tagger has to focus on a moving target and is less aware of blocks set by our other mids. Perhaps even Pittonet could exercise the physicality he reputably has to give Cripps a clear passage.
Dealing with a tagger is not rocket science and I'm disappointed that Cripps (and Docherty) isn't being schooled in anti-tagging tactics. I'd like to see the club set up a session for Cripps with Cameron Ling; even a phone conversation would help.
I'd also like the club to bombard the AFL with footage of the infringements against Cripps that the umpires miss/ignore. Other clubs manage to turn around the umpires' treatment of star players but we seem far too willing to bend over >
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Martin, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Cunnington, Mitchell, Cogs, Whitfield, Neale etc all deal with tagging and don't need a Royal Commission to deal with it. If Cripps used his size and strength more he wouldn't have lightweights like Anderson shoving him about. Pittonet does need to do more as do Cripps teammates but it does get back to Cripps imposing himself physically and leading from the front. Have been pleased with Walsh who does have a go back at players who try it on with him and it will set him up for the future and he won't end up an easy target.
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(07-28-2020, 12:53 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Martin, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Cunnington, Mitchell, Cogs, Whitfield, Neale etc all deal with tagging and don't need a Royal Commission to deal with it. If Cripps used his size and strength more he wouldn't have lightweights like Anderson shoving him about. Pittonet does need to do more as do Cripps teammates but it does get back to Cripps imposing himself physically and leading from the front. Have been pleased with Walsh who does have a go back at players who try it on with him and it will set him up for the future and he won't end up an easy target. Yeah like last week and got pinged with a free, the retaliator always cops it in the ass. Back in the day, it got sorted behind play or at the next context by the enforcers. Can't do that anymore, been stamped out of the game whether it be going the knuckle or running through through someone with a perfect hip and shoulder. The officiators need to protect players like Cripps, plain and simple.
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(07-28-2020, 09:58 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Yeah like last week and got pinged with a free, the retaliator always cops it in the ass. Back in the day, it got sorted behind play or at the next context by the enforcers. Can't do that anymore, been stamped out of the game whether it be going the knuckle or running through through someone with a perfect hip and shoulder. The officiators need to protect players like Cripps, plain and simple. Yep initially you will give some free's away, But like Dusty the umps will start to ignore the off the ball stuff and it will sort itself out.
You have to protect yourself, JJ from the Bulldogs got targeted and the Dogs whinged and whinged and got nowhere... went on for ages until JJ stiffened the upper lip pushed back and ran his opponents off their legs.
I even saw Tom Mitchell throw one on the weekend. Selwood is another who became a nasty little prick because he had to, wrestling, sly ones it's all part of his game now because the umps can't be around every corner holding your hand.
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(07-28-2020, 12:53 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Martin, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Cunnington, Mitchell, Cogs, Whitfield, Neale etc all deal with tagging and don't need a Royal Commission to deal with it. If Cripps used his size and strength more he wouldn't have lightweights like Anderson shoving him about. Pittonet does need to do more as do Cripps teammates but it does get back to Cripps imposing himself physically and leading from the front. Have been pleased with Walsh who does have a go back at players who try it on with him and it will set him up for the future and he won't end up an easy target.
And all of those players deal with taggers without resorting to ironing them out.
One of Crippa’s strengths is his strength and he is trying to rely on that to beat the tag. However, by initiating and maintaining contact, he is often out of the contest and playing into his tagger’s hands.
Other tagged players have a variety of tactics but they often involve greater defensive effort, working harder, keeping on the move, exploiting height, speed, endurance, etc advantage, going to another opposition player to free up their opponent, etc.
Wrestling with the tagger at stoppages isn’t the answer and neither is being switched to full forward.
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(07-29-2020, 09:03 AM)DJC link Wrote:And all of those players deal with taggers without resorting to ironing them out.
One of Crippa’s strengths is his strength and he is trying to rely on that to beat the tag. However, by initiating and maintaining contact, he is often out of the contest and playing into his tagger’s hands.
Other tagged players have a variety of tactics but they often involve greater defensive effort, working harder, keeping on the move, exploiting height, speed, endurance, etc advantage, going to another opposition player to free up their opponent, etc.
Wrestling with the tagger at stoppages isn’t the answer and neither is being switched to full forward. Half of those mentioned punch on and wrestle, Martin and Cunnington won't tolerate being manhandled and get more respect imo.
Cripps strength is over hyped... Jack Steele the past three games has Cripps covered and the skipper couldn't move him. Having the 179cm, 81kg Anderson restraining him tells you he has to do better, he looks lighter imo and isn't able to muscle his way through those holds. The old Cripps was stronger imo, prefer him more bulked up...
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The difference is that Cripps grapples with the tagger making it easier for the tagger to keep him out of the contest and harder for umpires to pay frees. Martin and others give their taggers a shove, then head off with a couple of metres’ space. Cripps is more than strong enough to deal with any tagger, he just needs to learn how best to use that strength.
Of course, the best way to deal with a tagger is to make it a team priority to break the tag(s). Our coaches must have missed the memo.
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(07-29-2020, 12:51 PM)DJC date Wrote:Of course, the best way to deal with a tagger is to make it a team priority to break the tag(s). Our coaches must have missed the memo. We are winning the clearances, but it comes at a cost of maybe not having Cripps always front and centre.
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(07-29-2020, 12:53 PM)LP link Wrote:We are winning the clearances, but it comes at a cost of maybe not having Cripps always front and centre.
Very true LP, and it's great to see Setters, Walsh, Kennedy, etc stepping up. However, we are missing Crippa's creative ball use.
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