Post Game Pandemonium!: AFL 2020 Rd 8: Carlton vs North

[Micky0]

Newnes Impressed with his Competitiveness, definitely did not stop all day.

[PaulP]

A not very convincing win against weakened opposition going nowhere.

We were outscored in the last 3 q, outscored on turnover and outscored from stoppage - those last 2 factors alone usually mean you lose the game. Mitch "Teague is my bitch" McGovern has obviously been told that 25% output is sufficient to earn full pay, and plays accordingly. Harry McKay is also a big concern injury wise.

When it comes to coaching, Teague is the luckiest man alive. As Amos makes clear, some other mug did all the dirty work, then in rides Dinkum Dave on his white horse, gets gifted kids with games under their belt, get gifted blokes like Betts and Martin, and time after time we just barely drag our sorry ar$es over the line. Praise be, it's a miracle.

[blueday]

A not very convincing win against weakened opposition going nowhere.

We were outscored in the last 3 q, outscored on turnover and outscored from stoppage - those last 2 factors alone usually mean you lose the game. Mitch "Teague is my bitch" McGovern has obviously been told that 25% output is sufficient to earn full pay, and plays accordingly. Harry McKay is also a big concern injury wise.

When it comes to coaching, Teague is the luckiest man alive. As Amos makes clear, some other mug did all the dirty work, then in rides Dinkum Dave on his white horse, gets gifted kids with games under their belt, get gifted blokes like Betts and Martin, and time after time we just barely drag our sorry ar$es over the line. Praise be, it's a miracle.

I don't think it is that simple. We are playing a completely different style of footy. Bolton never flipped the switch, ultimately he was conservative for to long. Unlucky.

[townsendcalling]

A not very convincing win against weakened opposition going nowhere.

We were outscored in the last 3 q, outscored on turnover and outscored from stoppage - those last 2 factors alone usually mean you lose the game. Mitch "Teague is my bitch" McGovern has obviously been told that 25% output is sufficient to earn full pay, and plays accordingly. Harry McKay is also a big concern injury wise.

When it comes to coaching, Teague is the luckiest man alive. As Amos makes clear, some other mug did all the dirty work, then in rides Dinkum Dave on his white horse, gets gifted kids with games under their belt, get gifted blokes like Betts and Martin, and time after time we just barely drag our sorry ar$es over the line. Praise be, it's a miracle.

So we have two choices, Carlton circa May 2019 Under Bolton or Carlton circa July 2020 under Teague...... umm, next question!!

No one enjoyed their football under Bolton, he was too intense, too uptight, too uncompromising, yet the same group in a matter of days, with a different coaching attitude, beat the Brisbane who had a full head of steam!!

Even watching Bolton’s press conferences made me tense and uptight! Imagine what it was like for the players!

4/4 after 8, 2 losses less than a kick, took a contender to a kick after the siren to defeat us and we’re ( rightly or wrongly) being touted as a final 8 side.......  yep I’ll take Teague and 2020 every day of the week!!

[PaulP]

I don't think it is that simple. We are playing a completely different style of footy. Bolton never flipped the switch, ultimately he was conservative for to long. Unlucky.

No we aren't. Teague himself has said on numerous occasions that the style hasn't changed that much. As we can see with Clickbait Clarkson, there's nothing any coach can do about kids and hacks. He can barely get a yelp out of O'Maera, Mitchell, Wingard, Scully etc.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Paul.. A win is a win and while we had plenty of passengers we still did enough and it was the lesser lights who saved the day.
Eddie had a shocker, Martin was below par and Cripps was belted into submission.
We would have lost that game under BB, if we want to talk about hard done by coaches
and mistakes then Brett Ratten is probably your man.

[PaulP]

Paul.. A win is a win and while we had plenty of passengers we still did enough and it was the lesser lights who saved the day.
Eddie had a shocker, Martin was below par and Cripps was belted into submission.
.........................if we want to talk about hard done by coaches
and mistakes then Brett Ratten is probably your man.

Well we won, whether it's because we were good enough, or just luck, or whether North are down on everything, is hard to say. Apart from maybe the 1stq, it was an ordinary performance IMO, with far too many players down on form.

[townsendcalling]

Apart from maybe the 1stq, it was an ordinary performance IMO, with far too many players down on form.

Yep and that’s what good teams can do on occasions. Conversely, 6 days before hand, we hardly had a passenger in a game that went to the wire.

[Professer E]

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[Lods]

"GWS should play more like Carlton" was a comment on one of the footy shows last week. It is not something we've heard a lot over the last 5 years...so I suspect Teaguey might be telling a few fibs when he says the style hasn't changed much or it could be that players are being played to their strengths in terms of positions.

Whatever it is we're different and credit to Teague for that aspect
The attacking free flowing style is 'chalk and cheese' compared to the recent past.
We saw it in the first quarter yesterday and then it kind of went missing.
There were probably a number of reasons for that and most of them have been touched on through the thread.
Injuries to personnel meant a change to the forward structure that's been working well in recent weeks.
It's interesting to note that Port struggled yesterday so last week's game may also have impacted.

If I have a concern it's that when North tried on the physical  stuff it did have an effect. We've been really good ourselves at times this year in applying physical 'pressure'. Physical 'intimidation' however is slightly different and something we're not good at. Handling that form of pressure also raises a few question marks. I think we can expect a bit more of the same in coming weeks when opposition folks analyse  yesterday's game.

Finally just on Cripps. I've been thinking, and saying for some time that he appears to be playing injured. Some have put his reduction in impact and explosiveness to his trimming down... and that may be the case.
Football is a funny game and a lot of our opinions are  based on our own perceptions clouded by bias or a simple 'bee in our bonnet.'
It may be that's why when I was watching Cripps in the pre-game run throughs and it came time for the players to break into a faster run it seemed to me that he was struggling to increase  the pace and took a 'check' moment before he got going.