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CV and mad panic behaviour
(07-13-2020, 12:31 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:You got that right.

The only reason we're in lock down now is that the quarantine processes were deficient.

Dan finds the Coronavirus important enough to put his dopey, ugly scone on TV every day but was incapable of ensuring adequate procedures (and the right human resources) were in place.

That is a fact.

You really think he wasn't aware that Pallas had hived off the security gig to some union cronies?

That would be naive in the extreme.

The buck stops with him. What the f... else is he doing?

You may disagree but that's the way the game works and should work. For all sides of politics.
That covers it perfectly. Thinks people will forget come election time. I don't even know what the other blokes name is but he'll be getting my vote before Dan. Even consider voting Green before him. No, only kidding. Nothing could make me vote Green.
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Andrew's has got a lot right and a lot wrong.

But  Andrew's isn't responsible for people's behaviour: the skank who supposedly swapped a bit for a shopping trip,  and the guard who participated should be held responsible for their actions.
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(07-13-2020, 04:51 AM)rocky link Wrote:That covers it perfectly. Thinks people will forget come election time. I don't even know what the other blokes name is but he'll be getting my vote before Dan. Even consider voting Green before him. No, only kidding. Nothing could make me vote Green.
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Sad to hear about Bachar Houli's mum in ICU.

SARS-CoV-2 doesn't play favourites.
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..and people think that the other mob would have done a better job than Andrews???  Really,  oh ROFLMAO...

O'Brien, Lobster Boy ET AL... Oh that's rich.
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https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-...-c-1162758

Meanwhile, this time last week there were 0 cases in ICU.

This is why they are locking us down.
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(07-13-2020, 07:56 AM)Professer E link Wrote:..and people think that the other mob would have done a better job than Andrews???  Really,  oh ROFLMAO...

O'Brien, Lobster Boy ET AL... Oh that's rich.

Priceless Prof  Smile
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(07-13-2020, 12:28 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:At the end of the day, this biggest problem isn't the idea of putting security in that role.


(07-13-2020, 12:28 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:That whole event has been politicised, and left a very sour note in my mouth because with every Andrews argument I hear, I see information conveniently ignored because it doesnt fit the rhetoric.  You can see confirmation bias and hypocrisy in every argument.

Disagree with most of your post but those 2 bits sh## the most.

The biggest problem was the approach to quarantine which lead to the appointment of security guards. Not one decision they made along the way made any sense then or now.

The bit about how this is somehow "politicised" is really poor. I voted for Dan and have been a big fan. That doesn't mean I'll blindly follow every dumb thing he does. So just because you're viewing everything through a "politicised" lense doesn't mean everybody else is.
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(07-13-2020, 11:34 AM)jeza link Wrote:Disagree with most of your post but those 2 bits sh## the most.

The biggest problem was the approach to quarantine which lead to the appointment of security guards. Not one decision they made along the way made any sense then or now.

The bit about how this is somehow "politicised" is really poor. I voted for Dan and have been a big fan. That doesn't mean I'll blindly follow every dumb thing he does. So just because you're viewing everything through a "politicised" lense doesn't mean everybody else is.

Sorry jeza, you may not agree with me and thats fine but as someone who sees politicians as leeches on society I find it ironic that people are talking about him pandering to his crony union mates regarding the hotels.

I dont think you need to train someone to not let people out and not screw them during  pandemic.

The people in quarantine are more culpable than any guard or any policy.

You might agree you might not, but the actions of people and the outcome speaka for itself.

Fwiw there's still no concrete proof the hotels were the root cause of the issue.
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(07-13-2020, 05:49 AM)Professer E link Wrote:Andrew's has got a lot right and a lot wrong.

But  Andrew's isn't responsible for people's behaviour: the skank who supposedly swapped a bit for a shopping trip,  and the guard who participated should be held responsible for their actions.

No but he's certainly responsible for ensuring rock solid processes and policies are in place such that the virus didn't escape back into the community (from quarantine).

The CHO essentially reaffirmed today that it's highly likely all current cases stem from the quarantine breach.

Dan hasn't had a more important responsibility during his tenure.

And he royally f^%$d it up.

the blunder will cost the economy further billions, keeps 1000s of kids out of school and cause a whole heap more pain & grief on 10s of 1000s of people.

That's on him. If you wanna be the big kahuna you take the good and you take the bad.

In any private organisation, he'd be gone by now.

It's facile to say he can't be blamed for others' action. Even puerile.
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